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« on: 09 May, 2014, 01:41:48 PM »

Flaminia Est 325-400K USD   www.rmauctions.com/lots/?SaleCode=MC14&sort=lot Also Fanalone, D50 rep, Aurelia America
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« Reply #1 on: 09 May, 2014, 02:19:27 PM »

The estimate you give is correct, but in EUR, not USD.
To get the figure in USD you have to multiply by 1.38.
Seems a very high estimate to me, at least twice the price of an excellent B20.
Will it sell?
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« Reply #2 on: 09 May, 2014, 03:05:55 PM »

Thankyou, Euros of course. Will it sell? Well I suppose if one can't quite stretch to the B24s at €750-950
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« Reply #3 on: 11 May, 2014, 03:18:37 PM »

I was mistaken, the Flaminia Zagato did sell, it was sold for an incredible price: 571.200 EUR according to the RM website today.

It had what it takes to succeed:
iconic design
rarity
what looks like a perfect restoration, in the best colors
and maybe a complete history.

All other Lancias also sold:
the D50A recreation for 812.000 EUR
The B24 spider for 784.000 EUR (that is more than 1 Mio. USD, which seems to be the going price now for excellent spiders!)
The Fulvia HF for 84.000 EUR

So the market seems still strong, for well presented cars.
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« Reply #4 on: 11 May, 2014, 05:17:12 PM »

A Flaminia record I assume? Anyone got a crystal ball?
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« Reply #5 on: 11 May, 2014, 05:20:15 PM »

Sebastien keeps an auction results page on the Viva Lancia site.


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« Reply #6 on: 21 May, 2014, 03:35:31 PM »

I see the current VL page number six has a column which mentions Flaminia Sport prices. €100,000+, albeit March 2014. Does anyone here know of any of the Sport 'bargains to be found in France and the UK'?
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« Reply #7 on: 21 May, 2014, 06:04:39 PM »


It was the mythical 2000 euro Flavia Super Jollies I wondered about - are there really any about any more?

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« Reply #8 on: 21 May, 2014, 06:19:21 PM »

seems VL article is way out of date then even by months the prices are going exponential for the rare models. All lancias are iconic IMHO....
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« Reply #9 on: 21 May, 2014, 06:36:17 PM »

Aurelia B24 Spider (America) €250,000. Condition is not mentioned in the published price guide?, although 'Banger' (which means project I expect) is of course in the title.
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« Reply #10 on: 21 May, 2014, 07:03:25 PM »

Just a few comments:

Those Ruoteclassiche values are for what they call a 100% car / Prezzo Ruoteclassiche
Vetture di bon livello, originali, ben conservate, oppure restaurate correttamente. Vetture omologate Asi o di sicura omologazione.
I would translate as: Cars at a good level, original, in good conservation, or well restored. Cars with Asi homologation, or certain to be homologated.


Ruoteclassiche values have always been all over the place. For example a B24 spider has the same quotation as a Lambda 1st series.
When have you seen a Lambda, even 1st series, sell for the same price as an Aurelia spider?
And is any Lambda, even in their 100% condition, worth 200.000 €?
Quotations for Lambdas are too high, while Aurelia spiders have always been too low!

And why should an Astura then be worth 80.000 €?

Does it make sense to give a quotation for an Aurelia B55/ B56 of which there were maybe 6 to 10 chassis built, all with one-off bodies, from an iconic Florida II, to a strange Ghia body?

And finally, do you think you will today find a (really 100%) Appia 1st series for 8.000 €?

So it is best to take those values with a grain of salt, and to do your homework!


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« Reply #11 on: 28 May, 2014, 11:33:12 AM »

Regarding covertibles here is a B24s from a little while ago http://mint2me.com/2013/12/07/elegant-58-lancia-aurelia/
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