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« Reply #330 on: 22 March, 2016, 02:09:12 PM »

Thanks Wil for that tip will possibly let rip on the bottom end later in the week
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« Reply #331 on: 27 March, 2016, 02:35:35 PM »

Hi all
had a go at getting the crank out...Hmmm....do you have to take all the sprockets off or will the crank tap out when the rear mounting nuts are undone? the crank toothed sprocket is just held on by the pulleyand located with the spacer? did not want to get the 2lb club hammer on the job so any tips?
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« Reply #332 on: 27 March, 2016, 02:36:46 PM »

I have taken the oil pipe in the picture off still no movement...
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« Reply #333 on: 27 March, 2016, 02:38:49 PM »

Do you need to take the two camshaft plugs out?
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« Reply #334 on: 27 March, 2016, 03:04:00 PM »

It's a long while since I had the pleasure of working on an Appia motor, but don't you have to screw some bolts into the three tapped holes at 10, 2 and 6 o'clock in the first picture to draw the rear main out first?
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« Reply #335 on: 27 March, 2016, 08:30:11 PM »

Spot on - 3 x 10mm head (M6 without checking) bolts to withdraw the rear main bearing , then the crank pulls out. No need to touch the cam nuts
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« Reply #336 on: 28 March, 2016, 12:20:28 PM »

rocker cover bolt size?
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« Reply #337 on: 30 March, 2016, 01:18:26 PM »

Hi all
found some bolts and the crank is out...the bearings are worn through to the backing on the rear bearing and a bit thin on the front bearing....see pics
Clarkey


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« Reply #338 on: 30 March, 2016, 01:19:40 PM »

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« Reply #339 on: 30 March, 2016, 01:54:37 PM »

Hi all
just came off the phone from my engine man he is quoting 120 for the rebore and 100 for the regrind...might gamble on another block that came with the car and get it honed for 40 and another 50 on getting 2 studs helicoiled....save 30? I should be so lucky! however this block is a later one with more water jackets Hmmm...Off to see him tomorrow
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« Reply #340 on: 05 April, 2016, 04:29:40 PM »

Hi all
blocks and crank still with the engine man so took the chance to get the crankcase on the engine stand so I can get it really clean. was tempted to use my Karcher power washer..any opinions on this can you still buy GUNK?
Clarkey


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« Reply #341 on: 05 April, 2016, 05:11:36 PM »

Ideally for aluminium casings you ought to use an Alkaline solution, it removes baked on oil and carbon, and importantly is water soluble. "Metasoak" aluminium cleaner.
Try www.aptcleaningsupplies.co.uk   they also sell Gunk and Jizer, which is water soluble.
John
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« Reply #342 on: 05 April, 2016, 08:58:12 PM »

Before I started rebuilding the Flaminia engine, I had every single casting/aluminium plate professionally chemically cleaned by a company in Birmingham. This was the best thing I have ever done in relation to an engine rebuild, and from now on any further rebuilds will incorporate this process. It was not expensive.
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« Reply #343 on: 05 April, 2016, 09:59:02 PM »

Re Karcher, if it's all coming apart I would have thought it OK to use but if any bearings or seals are still in the crank case you would be likely to force water behind them.
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« Reply #344 on: 06 April, 2016, 12:26:30 PM »

Hi all
thanks for the tips...I'm thinking soak it all in the metasoak stuff then blast it with the Karcher after plugging all the oilways etc up.
Clarkey
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