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« Reply #105 on: 20 April, 2014, 05:32:52 PM »


"a bit more done"...!!!!!

Are you keeping a note of time or just bits and bobs as and when?   I'd be fascinated to know how many hours for that "little" list.

As ever I'm inspired as to how much can be done in a short period elapsed given focus and facilities.

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« Reply #106 on: 20 April, 2014, 06:33:54 PM »

I'm worried that Chugga's put the Fulvia on the back burner.... I was really enjoying that one!

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« Reply #107 on: 20 April, 2014, 07:04:34 PM »

I'm worried that Chugga's put the Fulvia on the back burner.... I was really enjoying that one!

Guy
regrettably I think the fulvia is going, need the funds for something else  Wink its all up in the air at the moment , don't want to promise the car then bail out of the sale however I will know within the next week what I'm doing, I've not lost interest in it its just unfortunate out of all my vehicles aprilia's and fulvia's sell quickly and for more money than appia's , however if I do sell don't panic as I'm sure i'll find something else to do  Cheesy anyway, more progress today, full day on it again tomorrow , aim to finish it this week and get it home until DVLA make up their minds on a log book


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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #108 on: 21 April, 2014, 05:45:20 PM »

more progress today, started on the brakes 1st, they were all fitted yesterday however I didn't have time to put fluid in until this morning, this car has series 3 front brakes (twin leading shoe) and (take note simon) they are sometimes a royal pain in the back side to refit without leaks, the problem with them is the back of the cylinder (alloy) corrodes where the banjo bolts for the link pipes connect.
I had 4 stainless steel sleeved replacement units from the appia consortium and used (from previous experiences) common sence to have the rear faces skimmed to a nice flat un pitted surface, I then chose to re use the original copper washers off the banjo unions but carefully annealing them 1st (heating with gas torch until red/orange and cooling off whilst red in a cup of water)
This all worked well accept for the o/s lower banjo connection leaked under pressure from the resovoir , removed again (back plate off again!!) and inspected, 1 copper washer had a slight bur so I replaced with another spare item which again I annealed , final result is that all the brakes now seem to work and its holding hydrolic pressure from the resovoir , the plunger should stay up all the time to act like a servo under braking , also the banjo bolts must not be over tightened just "nipped" otherwise the banjo unions distort and you have no chance of sealing , when they leak its not always obvious as it runs down between the cylinder and back plate into the drum, the 1st you know about it iss not being able to stop!
exhaust is now on, the center section that I already had in stock is not correct and I presume series 1  Huh? its a foot too long and the bends are in the wrong place  Sad so I decided to refit the original front pipe and center with a new back box for the time being,
Fuel tank is now in after being painted as is electric fuel pump and the wiring is now strung in for it too, hand brake took it of sorting out bt again now seems to work ok, done plenty of other little jobs finishing things off, I aim for the car to be finished this week, dad is busy reconditioning 3 starter motors that I have and then mine and matty's carbs


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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #109 on: 25 April, 2014, 05:13:16 PM »

On the road yet ? What's next ?

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« Reply #110 on: 25 April, 2014, 07:30:29 PM »

On the road yet ? What's next ?


will be finished this weekend........I HOPE!!!!, all sorts done, mostly fiddley jobs, water pump changed, NOS distributer fitted, new coil fitted, recon dynamo fitted , whilst fitting I took out the wear in the pivot bolt hole in the crank case, it was reamed out to 10mm then a 7.5id sleave pulled through in 2 halfs so that the timing case can still be removed then reamed again to 8mm and now the dynamo sits square to the crank case and zero play in the pivot, radiator and engines cooling system flushed , cooling hoses replaced , rad painted and shutters freed off, air horns repaired, fuel system all finished new hoses , electric pump fitted (finished off) , front drums and wheels back from machining so fitted and brakes adjusted, few bits of interior trim altered/ changed, engine bay and engine steam cleaned , timing done, new bosch blue coil fitted and connecters replaced around the engine bay, still more wiring to check over , starter and carb to fit then hopefully we'll be in business, lots of fiddley jobs left such as changing the front side lamps , sorting out the screan washers etc, will put some more pics up over the weekend  Smiley
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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #111 on: 27 April, 2014, 05:57:18 PM »

very productive day today, tied up most of the loose ends and now she runs!!!, it would have been rude not to try her out around the industrial estate, drives fantastic, engine is absolutely sweet as a nut with no back pressure or smoke, cracking oil pressure 25psi at idle , most things seem to be working now, my dad had a go and he was equally impressed, 1st picture is him driving it, he had to admit that the wheels have even grown on him now so that's "permission" to keep them in my eyes


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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #112 on: 28 April, 2014, 07:41:01 AM »

Good going.

Safe and sound the main thing......aesthetics........as and when

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« Reply #113 on: 28 April, 2014, 10:18:52 AM »

That's a beautifully shaped little car - especially the rear 3/4 view. The wheels are fun - looks like a Corgi Whizzwheels. Reminded me of an 50's MG Magnette I saw many years ago at a Silverstone VSCC day. It was bright red with chrome wires and it gave it such a different look.
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« Reply #114 on: 30 April, 2014, 12:16:47 PM »


WELL DONE !!!

HERO !!!

I agree with the "toy car" comment with those wheels - which I like - but I think its the front number plate more than the rear that jars.  I like those mirrors.

With the paint (or lack) I'm wondering what an Appia looks like with a two tone...  From some angles it looks like a cream roof.

Are you able to post something on YouTube?  Would love to see and hear it.

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« Reply #115 on: 30 April, 2014, 07:22:28 PM »

David I suffer with "technophobia" and have no idea how to post on youtube  Cheesy car passed its MOT today with flying colours, only thing picked up on was a missing bolt in the front axle which the tester knew I would sort, anyway back to the unit to replace the bolt and found ALL the axle bolts were loose !!! Shocked this brings me to my next point that MOT exempt is a STUPID idea, the appia is a 57 so technically exempt however I'm glad of peace of mind to pay for another person to double check my work and anyone elses previous work, anyway take the old girl home and put her away until a log book arrives.........................I wish!! clutch went on the way home just slipping on hills, so atleast I think I know why it came off the road, quick call to Don and should be here next week , a few other precaution jobs to do such as the oil pressure gauge pipe, heater fan is missing so needs sorting and the wax cartridge for the thermostatic shutters is knackered, slight play in a steering silent block so replacing all 4, keep you posted
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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #116 on: 01 May, 2014, 07:51:41 AM »


How good are the door and screen seals? 

David
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« Reply #117 on: 01 May, 2014, 07:55:10 AM »


I couldn't remember the interior so just looked back.  That's rather nice...almost too nice...  Seat covers?

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« Reply #118 on: 01 May, 2014, 10:21:58 AM »

Is that total MOT exemption for old cars in the UK? As from my last control technique here, cars registered as 'vehicles de collection' as mine now is only has to have a CT once every 5 years. That seems quite a long time too for someone not to spot a deteriating brake line or whatever (or loose bolts as you said). Obviously I haven't got a vehicle lift so I can only check what I can see and then what I can see is limited by my knowledge. Maybe they think classic car owners take more care about their cars upkeep which is true to a point but total exemption does seem a bit far. Anyway, congratulations on reviving another Lancia - doesn't seem very long ago at all that you were wondering whether to do it or not.
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« Reply #119 on: 01 May, 2014, 12:12:23 PM »

The MOT exemption is, to my mind utterly ridiculous. I accept that to expect an older car to fully comply with say the emission requirements or indeed braking and other requirements if considering veteran or vintage cars, but to totally disregard a whole body of cars is tempting providence. An annual basic check on the fundamental soundness of a vehicle should be the absolute minimum requirement. This would be to the benefit of the owner, the driver, passengers and other road users not to mention the whole classic and old car movement. There would rightly be an uproar if there were to be road traffic accident deaths or injuries arising from the use of unroadworthy cars exempt from all testing.

I will continue to see Ivor the MOT on a nominally annual basis for my own peace of mind and I would hope that others will also get some sort of annual check, especially in the light of Chugga's experience!!

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