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« Reply #15 on: 27 February, 2014, 06:54:52 PM »

How did you get the little bit which had broken off out of the engine? I can see that the push rod is broken at the lower end. I hope that you have not fitted the push rods upside down.
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« Reply #16 on: 27 February, 2014, 11:50:46 PM »

How did you get the little bit which had broken off out of the engine? I can see that the push rod is broken at the lower end. I hope that you have not fitted the push rods upside down.

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Car is running today, and everything seems ok. There is a show on this weekend and I'm putting the car on the Lancia stand. Unfortunately when I checked the tracking delivery from Cavalitto, it indicated that I would not get the parts till Tuesday.
Soooooo, a bit of lateral thing was required.
Early Fiat 500's have a very similar pushrod (126's have a solid rod). The 500 part is maybe 4mm longer, and the inerts are slightly different. I removed my inserts, and the 500 ones, cut down the rod to the correct length, and fitted the B20 inserts.
So now there is a little bit of Fiat beating away inside a Lancia, or once again Fiat comes to Lancias rescue !!!

As soon as I get the correct parts, I'll remove and check everything over again. I just need the car running to make it easier to attend the show.
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« Reply #17 on: 28 February, 2014, 07:41:51 AM »

Good bit of "Heath Robinson" .....
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« Reply #18 on: 28 February, 2014, 08:17:08 AM »

....prefer to use the term resourceful.......!


Temporary fixes are the life blood of some cars, hoping it properly fixed and leading an even more adventurous life again very soon.



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« Reply #19 on: 28 February, 2014, 04:38:17 PM »

In my experience some, if not all, temporary fixes end up being the permanent fixes!!!!!

Great ingenuity and a good knowledge of other models to the rescue ..... well done. Have a great weekend, I hope the sun shines on you.

                                         Andy
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« Reply #20 on: 28 February, 2014, 09:51:02 PM »


How do they compare?   Might you pull the other five and replace with FIAT items?

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« Reply #21 on: 28 February, 2014, 10:30:20 PM »

I was speaking with another friend today at the show. He has (had, now retired) a light engineering company. His son now runs the operation. He machines alloy based components for various companies, CNC and water jet cutting. I asked him about the rods. He said that the price Cavalitto was charging was as good as he's be able to do them for, but he was more concerned as to why it failed in the first place. He said, that if it was his car, he'd fit a complete new set regardless. What concerned him was the two little oil holes. When I had the rocket block off, I had a look at the exhaust pushrod, and I was certain I could feel an ever so gentle 'bump' just to each side of the hole, like a compression bulge. I wonder if 60 odd years of tappeting could be causing this. The oil hole must be there for a reason, yet the Fiat rod was plain, and just had a hole in the centre of each end insert, the same as the B20.
In modern Fiat engines, mostly diesels, the rockers are designed to break in the event of a timing belt failure, cheaper and easier to fix than damaged valves and pistons. I wonder are the holes the same idea, as in better for a rod to break (and so the valve stays shut), rather than run the risk of a piston hitting a stuck valve.
Has anyone ever had a timing chain fail on an Aurelia ?
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« Reply #22 on: 09 March, 2014, 11:33:38 PM »

In my experience some, if not all, temporary fixes end up being the permanent fixes!!!!!

Great ingenuity and a good knowledge of other models to the rescue ..... well done. Have a great weekend, I hope the sun shines on you.

                                         Andy

New pushrods arrived on Friday last......still in the packaging......I'll lay odds they'll be there for a while yet !!
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