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« Reply #105 on: 03 September, 2014, 02:58:04 PM »

Thank you Peter. That is the only reasonable interpretation of David's first posting of 29th August, and I think I must have read only the second.

Thank you Justin for the recommendation.

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« Reply #106 on: 03 September, 2014, 07:03:15 PM »


There will be no bulk order. 

Happy hunting!!

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« Reply #107 on: 11 September, 2014, 02:26:08 PM »

I have now received the replacement order from Amazon - I am afraid to report that they still do not know how to pack multiple, heavy books.

The photos say all!

Maybe Amazon UK is better on packaging, but I will never, ever, try it - I have been burned, and learnt my lesson!

Now I also have to repackage, and ship back to Kentucky, USA, the first 5 copies, which otherwise will be charged to me - and to get reimbursement from Amazon of the shipping costs....

Shall report the results...



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« Reply #108 on: 11 September, 2014, 02:42:00 PM »

Do not discount your specialist bookshop, as an alternative to Amazon, and other e-commerce facilities.

Since many years ago, when I was still a young boy in school in Paris, I have bought car books from a shop now called Librairie Passion Automobile, still located after 40 years at 83 rue de Rennes, in the 6th arrondissement of Paris, not far from St Germain des Prés.

Having a business meeting in Paris, I found time to visit the shop, and found "Lancia and De Virgilio" prominently displayed on one of the 2 tables. I then spoke to the guy managing the shop, who told me that the book had just arrived. He found the book fascinating from only a quick look through it, and a welcome change from yet another book on the Ford Mustang, or Harley Davidson motorbikes.

I must say that browsing through new books available on a table, and discussing with a competent shop manager is a completely different experience than browsing the internet, and much more enjoyable !


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« Reply #109 on: 11 September, 2014, 06:55:19 PM »

There are some lovely books just on that single table. The one about the advertising signs on the old buildings - it's good that these have been recorded. Only recently near me a big old barn has been demolished that had a huge faded BYRRH advert on it. Luckily I'd photographed it. Was puzzles me is that all over France the signs have faded at the same rate, as though the original painter whizzed around France and did the whole lot in a day.
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« Reply #110 on: 11 September, 2014, 06:59:52 PM »

Exactly!

And would you have searched for those books on the web?

Or would you buy them on impulse, when you see them?
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« Reply #111 on: 11 September, 2014, 09:08:21 PM »


I ordered my copy yesterday from www.Hive.co.uk for £41.88, including delivery to a local independent bookshop that will benefit in at least some small financial way and from which I can collect on foot. When I ordered, the website indicated that they were awaiting stock but I received an email before the end of the day saying my book had been dispatched. I'll let the world know via this forum if anything goes wrong but I'm feeling optimistic that the book will arrive in pristine condition.
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« Reply #112 on: 12 September, 2014, 11:35:04 PM »

Got my copy earlier this week, no problem with the packaging from booktopia.com.au!
I have to say that this is a brilliant book. I’m only about 60 pages in but the story is so well told and the photos and drawings are outstanding. It might even be up there with Bill Jamieson’s ‘Capolavoro’ as not only a great Lancia book but a great motoring book. Well done Geoff and all the others involved.
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« Reply #113 on: 13 September, 2014, 09:22:25 AM »

Do I gather that the packaging problems are with books ordered through amazon.com rather than co.uk?

I live in Portugal and use Amazon a lot and I have never ever had problems with orders that were made on co.uk but that may actually be shipped from U.K. or sometimes Germany or even Spain once or twice.  In fact their packaging has been superb, sometimes parcels with half a dozen or more books.  Lesson here may be not to use .com site if you are outside USA.
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« Reply #114 on: 13 September, 2014, 10:13:05 AM »

Yes, my problems were:

1. ordering at amazon.com : it gets shipped from the US, from Kentucky in fact
2. making a multiple order : because of friends, and possible presents, I ordered 5 copies at once.

They clearly have instructions to do the simplest packaging, and do not think of what can happen on the way. Putting 5 copies of a heavy book in the same oversized box, with only those plastic air-filled sausages and no wrapping whatsoever is a recipe for disaster!

Any well trained bookshop employee would know what to do - not the people of amazon.com however!

I learned my lesson - the hard way!
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« Reply #115 on: 13 September, 2014, 10:24:53 AM »

To change the subject, I have written enough about packaging !

The content of Geoffrey's book is worth discussing, and especially the appearance in the story of Fiat, and Fessia, has made me take out again another brilliant book:
40 Years of Design with Fiat, by Dante Giacosa.

In that book, numerous mentions of Fessia, and his personality, are available - no wonder De Virgilio got into problems with him.
Interesting also to read there that Dante Giacosa was asked when designing the Fiat 1400 and its derivatives to think about a V6 engine, but because of the difficulties of balancing, decided instead to go for the easier V8 layout (that was then only used in a sportscar, the 2 liter 8V).
And in that chapter he never mentions Lancia, the Aurelia and its V6 engine, although he must have been very aware of it.

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« Reply #116 on: 28 September, 2014, 08:02:57 PM »

Excellent from Geoff, worth more than the sixty five quid UK price tag I think. A few nice books out lately, just as I thought I had concluded my modest collection.
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« Reply #117 on: 07 October, 2014, 04:09:14 PM »

Review http://www.velocetoday.com/lancia-and-de-virgilio-at-the-center/
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« Reply #118 on: 02 August, 2015, 09:35:27 AM »

Currently available on amazon for a cracking price.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lancia-Virgilio-Centre-Geoffrey-Goldberg/dp/1935007254/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438508044&sr=8-1&keywords=Lancia+and+De+Virgilio


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« Reply #119 on: 02 August, 2015, 10:07:39 PM »

That's what I paid for my copy through 'Hive'

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