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« Reply #15 on: 05 January, 2014, 06:40:06 PM »


Chris - what a find !!!   The little star is new to me.  What is it?  Why?  Got a close up?

Andy - I expect Southend police know the plate regs better than most...

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« Reply #16 on: 05 January, 2014, 06:48:00 PM »


Andy - I expect Southend police know the plate regs better than most...

David

That would surprise me completely, had to explain the regs for plates on import vehicles to one officer who didn't like the plates on my Cadillac truck

And my k coupe has been running yellow at both ends Dutch format plates since I bought it nearly 14 years ago. Local coppers who have seen the car just ask whether I have to go back to Holland yearly or something. I've got the correct white Dutch trailer plate for when I'm towing to complete the effect
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« Reply #17 on: 05 January, 2014, 07:00:26 PM »

I knew imports were allowed as I think mazda mx5 imports have a much smaller recess in the boot for a licence plate than a uk model however I doubt you would get away with it on a "non imported" car, worth a try though I will certainly ask the next traffic officer who comes in and I think i'll try and blag the mot man with it, let you know how I get on , j
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« Reply #18 on: 05 January, 2014, 07:09:21 PM »

Surely ALL foreign cars are imported ?
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« Reply #19 on: 05 January, 2014, 07:18:28 PM »

not if its built for the uk market, think about a low light fulvia , "import" eyebrow lamp model is a  UK car so not an import as it was specifically altered for the uk market to meet our rules and regs including number plates and sold new in the uk, crazy really but the legislation you put the link too does clearly say import
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« Reply #20 on: 05 January, 2014, 08:12:10 PM »

not if its built for the uk market, think about a low light fulvia , "import" eyebrow lamp model is a  UK car so not an import as it was specifically altered for the uk market to meet our rules and regs including number plates and sold new in the uk, crazy really but the legislation you put the link too does clearly say import
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« Reply #21 on: 05 January, 2014, 09:05:21 PM »

im pretty sure it would be a personal import for a vehicle built to a none uk specification otherwise why would car manufacturers have to alter vehicles to take uk sized plates or move headlamps etc to meet the uk's laws, import is a broad term , most Americans call anything none American an import referring to I being foreign however generally in the motor industry it referes to a car that was origionally sold to a different market and then imported privately to the uk at a later date, my integrale was an import as it was origionally a company car in Italy and imported to the uk when it was 5yrs old, however my dedra was not as it was origionally sold in the uk new, when ever I ordered something for the delta it came up on the VRM as an import however none of my other vehicles do, fairly confident that's how the system works,
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« Reply #22 on: 05 January, 2014, 10:47:46 PM »

From the perspective of the DVLA regs, an import is usually meant as grey import from Japan, or from the US where the bumper recesses Re made for Japan/US number plates which are smaller than UK ones

These vehicles are allowed to use smaller size plates with a smaller font size

None of these really enable us to use imitation plates from another country, no shortage of old Citroens running round with faux French plates  lately tend to see a lot of more modern BMWs running faux German plates

My Dutch plates tend not to draw attention because the k coupe was never sold in the UK, still has the NL country sticker on the boot, the Dutch dealer number plate surround and is obviously LhD, so looks convincingly "foreign" at first glance
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« Reply #23 on: 05 January, 2014, 10:52:22 PM »

Pressed metal, as for motor cycle plates worked well for me and fitted neatly inside the original stainless steel recessed fitting on the front bumper. The MOT man I used happily turned a blind eye. Happy days!

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« Reply #24 on: 06 January, 2014, 11:10:02 AM »

Alfa Romeo 156 and 159 have always had front plates offset to the near side. Would be difficult to do otherwise!

Used to run the ex-works Fulvia 1.3HF with the number on the front of the bonnet which was technically wrong but never got stopped nor failed an MOT.

Years ago I managed to get LAC 1E made up without the space between the C and 1 but was stopped in Bromley by the Traffic Police and told that if they saw it again they would book me! Nowadays I'm happy with the space, being old and grumpy enough to despise the many who 'fiddle' about with spacing and positioning of fixings etc for effect.

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« Reply #25 on: 06 January, 2014, 07:41:35 PM »

I  think this is a bit of a case of making a mountain out of a mole hill, I've been running "Fay" on a small front plate supplied by Tippers since about 2006, I've never been stopped or had a comment made about it, as Chris Says the Tipper plate fits over the recess rather than in it but you'd need to know what you're looking for to see the difference, if you want the plate to fit in the recess as Chris does then fine, but otherwise I think we're worrying about a problem that in practical terms doesn't exist.
If I do get stopped at sometime then that's the time I'll worry about it, but seeing the blatant misuse and deliberate breaking of the law with illegal number plates due to spacing,or script on many modern cars and top of the range 4x4's in particular, I think the Police have better targets than us to concern them, around here we even had a Chrylser 300 Estate running around on Silver and black plates even though it was registered in 2010, and no one seemed to bother about that.
"Fay" is a UK spec car but if I ever get pulled I'll argue the case that the number plate fits the holder.

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