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chugga boom
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« on: 04 January, 2014, 08:31:26 PM »

abot 12 yrs ago when I restored my appia I had an Italian sized (highly illegal ) front number plate made , I have 2 fulvias that both need such plates making for them to go on the Italian licence mounting fitted when bumpers are not, anyone know where I can get these made ?? I've trawled ebay and the net with little success so any help appreciated , metal or plastic would be fine aslong as black and silver


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« Reply #1 on: 04 January, 2014, 08:41:26 PM »

Tippers vintage plates
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« Reply #2 on: 04 January, 2014, 08:57:07 PM »

I confirm Tippers.

I asked my MOT man re legality as I tried to get my sport through with them on. He is generally quite tough so was expecting the answer in the negative. I was surprised to hear him say that if they are legible and are fitted to the plate surround provided by the manufacturer then it is OK - and passed my car!!

I have them fitted to my Flavia, HF (bumperless) and Sport (plate surround sourced in Italy for bumper) but always carry the big plate in the boot just in case.
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« Reply #3 on: 04 January, 2014, 09:01:43 PM »

funny as 1 of my mot men wont let it through if I fit it  Angry tippers looks good only problem I have at the moment is no v5's hense I've been looking at show plates , thankyou both for the lead I will give them a call, j
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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #4 on: 04 January, 2014, 09:12:52 PM »

I wanted totally authentic looking period Italian style plates for our Fulvia GTE including the little * feature in the centre of the plates and in the end I got them from www.licenseplates.tv in the USA. They are display plates only but look great IMHO. I also carry a set of miore legal plates in the car but I haven't been stopped yet.
According to my order acknowledgement my front plate is 'Italy Mini Euro front issued between 1932 and 1976' and the rear is 'Italy Euro square license plate issued between 1932 and 1976'.


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« Reply #5 on: 04 January, 2014, 11:33:09 PM »

I managed to get a set of "appropriate" plates for the Stratos replica as did a friend...... For show purposes only of course. After one show at the NEC, three days on the stand, he raced to get out (successfully) and got home okay, a little faster than anticipated and is still hoping a certain European collector hasn't got a speeding ticket............

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« Reply #6 on: 05 January, 2014, 11:33:53 AM »

I fitted one to my car years ago. Got it in a local factors, pressed metal. Used for motorcyles.


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« Reply #7 on: 05 January, 2014, 12:22:33 PM »

What I should have perhaps also made clear is that all the UK sources for small plates I have used in the past could never produce a plate down to the size of the genuine Italian one which fits into (not over) the recess in the chrome/ss fitting on the bumper. Also the font is never correct and neither could they produce the * which appears on old Italian plates. I have UK sourced motorcycle size plates on our Aurelia's but for the GTE I made a particular effort to get the real thing.
All of the small front plates are illegal in the UK I believe but I do have a correct sized plate available for each car if required. That's my story and I am stocking to it!
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« Reply #8 on: 05 January, 2014, 01:43:41 PM »

Getting the number plate right is really important for the look of a car, I love the little badge-let on Chris' plates !

When I bought my '72 Dino Spyder it had yellow/white plates on it and they looked soooo wrong, it changed the back of the car completely - they were the first things to go. Here we have a slightly different issue, when you buy a new car or change some details on the CG (V5) you must move to the new format , if the car hasn't already been updated. The problem is that it doesn't really work for square plates, because you have to keep the hyphens, otherwise an MOT failure - and they do fail them

We can however use the black and silver format legally , if the car is on a "collection" CG

ps the pink 4L is not mine !


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« Reply #9 on: 05 January, 2014, 02:06:09 PM »

Hi James, my recollection is that anything non standard is illegal!!!! This includes font, font size, plate size, spacing, colour and also the location and colouring of fixings, especially if they may make the plate more difficult to read. This has largely come about because of the use of ANPR cameras which cannot interpret or think. Also, it is illegal to have additional features, badges etc which are non standard.

To date, I am not aware of anyone, having been stopped by the police, being refused permission to continue after a legal plate has been used to replace the illegal plate so long as it is fitted according to the regulations. So, if you can obtain suitable plates, make sure you carry a legal set and also that it will be easy to fit them by the side of the road. The size difference between Italian and UK style plates may require a little forethought Think particularly about lighting for the rear plate!!!

I'm delighted to see things progressing so well on the 1600HF, things have slowed even more on the B20 but we are still moving forward, just!!

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« Reply #10 on: 05 January, 2014, 04:32:00 PM »

Andy your quite right in what you say, spoke to a traffic officer that I know well and he pretty much said what you said
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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #11 on: 05 January, 2014, 04:36:10 PM »

Here in France the number plates must be fixed using pop rivets. Is it the same in the UK?
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« Reply #12 on: 05 January, 2014, 06:23:43 PM »

Andy your quite right in what you say, spoke to a traffic officer that I know well and he pretty much said what you said
With the greatest respect this is incorrect. there is a 'loophole'. See www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/2687/regulations/5/made
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« Reply #13 on: 05 January, 2014, 06:28:24 PM »

I cant get the link to open Huh?
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1935 augusta lusso (chugga)
1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3 
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV  "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #14 on: 05 January, 2014, 06:29:39 PM »

Sorry, try www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/2687/regulation/5/made
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