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« Reply #15 on: 22 July, 2013, 08:15:08 AM »


Keep it !!

There's been a couple of bits in Viva regarding Aurelias and keeping the fuel cool.  My test was a commute through the Blackwall tunnel.  Others want to be able to tour in Italy in the summer.  Its one of the things with an Aurelia where it shows its age.

An electric fan is another sensible addition.  Just recently I've started seeing what I would call motorbike size fans on classic cars (I expect its in paddocks) sometimes in multiples which might be a way of fitting in something as well as the standard fan with the motivation being to keep the under bonnet view pure.

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« Reply #16 on: 23 July, 2013, 12:09:58 PM »

Mine are fitted in the back, in the boot in the Aprilia and behind the trim in the Fulvia Sport so are unobtrusive.  Seem to work OK, the Aprilia has a Filter King but the Fulvia merely the pump.   At least Lambdas don't need such things, if the ultra reliable Exhausteur (=Autovac) does pack up you merely pour a gallon into its tank and gravity does the rest.
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« Reply #17 on: 24 July, 2013, 12:36:05 PM »

I bought a Facet FSE476087 fuel pump and a Filter King FSEFPR004 with 6 - 8 mm pipes for Carol's standard Fulvia 1.3S "Tigger".

The pump comes fitted with its own built-in filter to prevent damage to itself from tank debris, unlike the stupid original Bosch setup on my HPE VX.   Roll Eyes

One could probably argue against the Filter King being fitted with this pump, except it does provide fuel pressure regulation and a clear visual window on what's going on with the fuel.

Our Fulvia has a couple of handy bosses on the bodywork near the fuel piping where I plan to securely mount the Filter King.  Smiley

I have some pics, but unfortunately the "Upload Folder is full".
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« Reply #18 on: 24 July, 2013, 01:40:20 PM »

I bought a Facet FSE476087 fuel pump and a Filter King FSEFPR004 with 6 - 8 mm pipes for Carol's standard Fulvia 1.3S "Tigger".

The pump comes fitted with its own built-in filter to prevent damage to itself from tank debris, unlike the stupid original Bosch setup on my HPE VX.   Roll Eyes

One could probably argue against the Filter King being fitted with this pump, except it does provide fuel pressure regulation and a clear visual window on what's going on with the fuel.

Our Fulvia has a couple of handy bosses on the bodywork near the fuel piping where I plan to securely mount the Filter King.  Smiley

I have some pics, but unfortunately the "Upload Folder is full".
Guy,
Some Fulvias were fitted with a filter/pressure regulator so perhaps the bosses you've located might have been for one!
My Filter King came with a bracket that the filter /regulator mounts to, this was then mounted to the inner wing panel using two bolts and washers adjacent to where the metal fuel pipe connects to the fuel hose.
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« Reply #19 on: 25 July, 2013, 04:05:37 AM »

Thanks Brian!

Here is a pic of the 3 bosses where the Filter King will be mounted.

Anyone got a pic of what Brian has described?


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« Reply #20 on: 28 July, 2013, 10:47:41 AM »

Here's another answer to fog the picture a bit more. About 5 years ago my mechanical pump packed up. I phoned Omicron who gave me a choice of a new one or a Facet silver top. I decided to go for the Facet as I had spent about 18 years listening to the engine turniing over trying to suck some fuel up and hoping the battery had the life left after a winter break. I was told by Omicron the silver top was right for the 1300 and it was pointed out that there might be a problem with pressure and if there was to fit a regulator. To be honest, I can't remember what the symptoms were if this was the case. Whatever it was didn't occur and as I said I've been running it for 5 years now, unregulated and without any problems. Starts instantly too. There's a bit of a debate about that, but I believe it was Andrea Nistri who had measured oil pressure etc on start up and decided it was better to get the engine started straight away. I've yet to get around to fitting an on/off switch. I've very recently heard about inertia switches to cut fuel in an accident. They're cheap enough, does anyone know how one would be wired into a Fulvia with a Facet? Or are they only for modern cars with big brains?

@Richard: Yes, you fitted an oil pressure switch to JLG. It was a 3 position, off, on with pressure switch, on permanently.
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« Reply #21 on: 30 July, 2013, 12:02:18 AM »

Thanks Brian!

Here is a pic of the 3 bosses where the Filter King will be mounted.

Anyone got a pic of what Brian has described?
Guy,
That's the right place but mine is mounted on the inner wing panel just above.
I can't find a photo at the moment but in the Tavoli in section Tav 10a there is an illustration of the filter.regulator itself, but not where it mounts.
The Tavoli states that it was fitted for vehicles destined for Greece.

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« Reply #22 on: 30 July, 2013, 09:13:08 AM »

Here is the original regulator fitted to my Fulvia Sport


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« Reply #23 on: 30 July, 2013, 05:34:32 PM »

Here is the original regulator fitted to my Fulvia Sport

Richard,
Does it have the filter with the glass bowl? as that is what is shown in the Tavoli.

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« Reply #24 on: 30 July, 2013, 06:16:19 PM »

I'll have a look next time I am at the garage Brian.
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« Reply #25 on: 31 July, 2013, 10:44:01 AM »

Here is the filter element (used with mechanical fuel pump)


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« Reply #26 on: 31 July, 2013, 11:58:33 PM »

Here is the filter element (used with mechanical fuel pump)
Thank You Richard,
From What I can see it appears to be mounted about where Guy has the bosses.

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« Reply #27 on: 12 August, 2013, 06:24:43 PM »

Also shown in the photo is the mechanical fan cam adjuster, as mentioned in the thread regarding transmission belts. I also see in the current issue of VL, the Presedentiale Flaminias have electric fuel pumps and extra ignition coil 'to cover every eventuality'. Richard
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