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Author Topic: Appia furgoncino - A fettler's voyage  (Read 278658 times)
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« Reply #405 on: 01 December, 2016, 10:47:59 PM »

Thought this might look good in the back of the furgoncino..

http://www.ebay.it/itm/cassetta-porta-attrezzi-per-autocarro-lancia-depoca-/252662319698?hash=item3ad3d90a52:g:w9cAAOSw8gVX~IUF

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« Reply #406 on: 02 December, 2016, 07:27:55 AM »

It would indeed - I suspect that it well sell for more than 80 euros though !

This has been seen before, but here is the intended "boot-box" for the furgoncino. David Laver and I found it in a vide-grenier a couple of years ago


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« Reply #407 on: 02 December, 2016, 08:04:01 AM »

That is much classier than a toolbox ..... and, providing things go to plan, you should use it a lot more than said toolbox!!!!

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« Reply #408 on: 04 December, 2016, 09:38:36 AM »

Chris
Once I have received and assessed the clips I will share the suppliers - I have bought them from a couple of sources

RE the Mercedes source, I am awaiting a message from a Merc-owning mate for those as well
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« Reply #409 on: 05 December, 2016, 03:22:08 PM »

First batches of clamps have arrived

I bought some wire-rail ones as well because they are of the same period, but more "English" than European, but still look good and are much easier to use/re-use. I may use one of these on the top hose because it is taken on and off much more often

The cotter type are slightly smaller (5mm wide cf 8mm) than the originals, but especially on the smaller diameter pipes on the Christmas tree, they will work well, giving a tiny bit more room

Still waiting for the final batch to arrive


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« Reply #410 on: 05 December, 2016, 05:09:08 PM »

Luckily I had a spare Christmas tree casting (the one above that has been fettled)so it meant that I could try and separate the original.

The photos show what I found !

Impossible to take apart without breaking the banjo bolt because it was so rusted and weakened. Plus the banjo itself is completely blocked, so water flow would have been impossible meaning little or no water flow from the inlet side of the head or the heater matrix

I can probably clean up the casting and retap it but the bolt is hors-service so need to find a new one .....

The heater in my 3rd ser doesn't work very well, so I suspect the problem is the same


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« Reply #411 on: 05 December, 2016, 06:51:25 PM »

CIAO , CAVALITTO DI TORINO PUO' DARTI COSA TI SERVE , RACCORDI NICHELATI E BULLONE IN OTTONE E SUPPORTO NUOVO IN ALLUMINIO.......
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« Reply #412 on: 06 December, 2016, 09:58:39 AM »


Not much mention of the lathe of late.  Could you make a replacement?
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« Reply #413 on: 06 December, 2016, 03:08:04 PM »

Simon,
Sent you a pm ref Carello headlamps now I am back home in Italy after 6 weeks away.
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« Reply #414 on: 06 December, 2016, 06:46:29 PM »

A little bird tells me we might have the banjo bolt in nice shiny stainless steel I will check tomorrow
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« Reply #415 on: 08 December, 2016, 04:48:10 PM »

Power of the Forum !

Tim Heath has found some as fitted to Vespas or Fiat 500's - well done ! So they are on their way from Italy

Before fitting these make sure they are not used on silicone hoses as the edges of the band do not have a radius and will over time cut the hose. Some classic hoses are so good you may think they are old school rubber hoses. Just a thought...
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« Reply #416 on: 08 December, 2016, 05:13:01 PM »

see pic for stainless steel banjo


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« Reply #417 on: 08 December, 2016, 05:16:53 PM »

Thanks Tim (good to see you this week !)
I wasn't planning on fitting silicon hoses, but interesting to hear what you say about the bands. Does that apply to jubilee clips as well ?

On the subject of hose clips, I made a tool for tightening them up. An old screwdriver with the end cut off and a slot cut in the end. We'll see how it works. For the larger clips , I will do the same thing with an old bolt and then weld it to something ...

After coming in from the pruning, (we have about 4,500 vines in total and I have done the first 500 over the last couple of days - I will post a couple of pictures on the Everyday Appia page later in the week)  I have been tidying up the radiator and shutters

The radiator is in pretty good nick so I am not doing much more than clean, paint and refit. The inside is very clean, water flows through it at a very high rate and it seems a shame to pull it apart if it doesn't need it. Easy job to do later if required

A big surprise was the top shutter thermostat that came out very easily. It has a split washer to locate it in the radiator "tube". Interesting to note that it was soldered in behind the retaining  ring, presumably to stop it leaking, so I will need to find an alternative seal - what do you Appia and Aurelia owners do ?

I don't know what the Aprilia has because I have never managed to remove a thermostat !

I tested it alongside a new one in a cup of boiling water and seems to work well. You can see the temp range on the casing. Other detail shows the radiators are numbered as well - C10 - 46037

Last picture shows a slight mod that I have made to the battery earth wire. I changed the short, stiff original for a much long flexible wire so that sliding the battery in and out of its cubby-hole is much easier


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« Reply #418 on: 08 December, 2016, 05:17:49 PM »

Thanks Jim !

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« Reply #419 on: 08 December, 2016, 05:40:30 PM »

re the clips above...the flat strip ones are similar to ones I used many years ago on telephone cable enclosures when I was just a boy working for Post Office Telecommunications AKA BT these days...as I remember we used a tool called a spike capstan to tighten them up...the good old days
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