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Author Topic: Appia furgoncino - A fettler's voyage  (Read 278543 times)
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« Reply #165 on: 31 January, 2014, 03:52:13 PM »

Another milestone today

Panels loosely re-fitted and the van pushed out for a photo-shoot. We have also started preparing the back of the panels for underseal. I have removed all the loose underseal, but left anything that is properly stuck on. I cleaned it all off one section and it was clean, shiny metal underneath.

So as to get a nice even finish when we underseal the panels, we have stippled "paint on seam sealer" on the areas that were stripped. Using a short haired, stiff brush the effect is very close to the original and once "blacked" will not show up the stripped areas. Will post photos once it has dried and is painted

Next on the list is to put the engine and box back together and then refit them. There should be a parcel arriving soon with the final bits that I am missing . Dog is going to finish flating the front wing with the guide coat on it , once the paint is properly hard in a couple of weeks.


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« Reply #166 on: 31 January, 2014, 10:12:30 PM »

Love the piccy of the driver  Grin
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« Reply #167 on: 31 January, 2014, 10:15:02 PM »

looking good, cant wait to see it in colour, well done
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« Reply #168 on: 04 February, 2014, 05:34:09 PM »

Badge arrived from Italy this morning so I made a copy of the back plate from the old one and glued the badge on with a blob of good old tiger seal ....

Result ? - The badge is a perfect fit and a faithful copy. If I'm being picky, the lettering is a bit too sharp. The colour is good and so it will do until I can get a nice old one, hopefully Chris can sort me out !


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« Reply #169 on: 04 February, 2014, 05:56:23 PM »

I just looked at the old one on page 10.  Be interesting to see how it looks with the plastic flatted and polished.  Perhaps not go the whole way and take out all the scratches but just back far enough to get optical clarity?

I thought the "model soldier painter" was a good idea.  Not sure how steady your hand is with a magnifier and fine brush should you want to touch any of it in or strip back the silver and redo or something.  A nice "kitchen table" project - or is the idea that the girls kick you out into the garage?

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« Reply #170 on: 04 February, 2014, 05:59:45 PM »


...of course the new badge looks brilliant.

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« Reply #171 on: 05 February, 2014, 09:57:05 AM »

Simon, the Appia looks fantastic in primer........can't wait to see it when painting is completed! The styling is just wonderful!
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« Reply #172 on: 05 February, 2014, 01:00:28 PM »

Simon, that  is all looking brilliant, the new badge is very smart, but I know what you mean about the looking too new. Just as David has suggested a project to smarten up the original badge, why not a little, gentle attempt to put a little age on the new badge. No more than taking the shine off it is what I have in mind ........

As for the Hercules .............. superb !!!!!!

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« Reply #173 on: 11 February, 2014, 06:11:17 PM »

Thank you for your comments !

A job that is taking a disproportionate amount of time is the renovation/conservation of the aluminium trim that goes between the rear wing and the body. Having cleaned, stripped and polished the trims, I then set about straightening out the dents and getting the profile back to perfect. I taped the trims to a plastic strip whilst working on them, because they are very fragile

In order to reshape the trims, Dog needed a panel beater's sand bag. They are quite expensive, so I made one from a couple of bits of Connolly (!) leather left over from the Aprilia's interior. The best ones are quadruple stitched, so I copied that and filled it with sand ...... works very well, polished leather one side, rough the other.

Once the dents were knocked out, I then set about repairing the lip. Done using fibre glass filler to glue a very fine glass fibre sheet in place, then sanding down to the same thickness as the ally

Etch primer and ready to paint. I have seen some furgoncinos with these left as polished aluminium, but trop bling IMHO

All in all, at least 2 days work ......

 


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« Reply #174 on: 11 February, 2014, 06:37:35 PM »


No bench for him to work on ?

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« Reply #175 on: 11 February, 2014, 06:47:39 PM »

I'll build that next week from an old piece of Chippendale ......
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« Reply #176 on: 13 February, 2014, 06:03:45 PM »

We've had a busy couple of days prep'ing various bits and pieces ready for painting. We are doing all the shuts now so that the doors can be hung for final painting. In order to hang doors I need to fit the front wings as well, because you cannot fit them with doors fitted !

The idea is to allow me to start putting everything back together, minimise the risk of chips when refitting, ensuring all the edges are adequately painted and also, because the furgoncino is 2-tone, I want the doors on to get a perfect, uniform demarcation between the colours.

Dog working hard, me getting in the way ......


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« Reply #177 on: 14 February, 2014, 01:35:40 PM »


Feel like you're on the home straight now?

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« Reply #178 on: 22 February, 2014, 02:05:20 PM »

David, the difficult bit is about to start ........

A bit of work on the engine today and a request for you Appia folk out there.

How do you refit the distributor drive so that it is in the correct position for the ignition timing ? Do you set the engine at TDC on one or other cyl and then have the offset slot pointing at something ? Or do I just go back to first principles and fit the distributor /rotor and cap and make sure it points at the correct cylinder and the condensor is on the correct side Huh??

Thanks

A couple of photos tomorrow
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« Reply #179 on: 22 February, 2014, 08:40:34 PM »

Photos as promised:

The engine had been largely rebuilt when I bought the car, new pistons, ground head etc etc, but non of the ancilliaries have been done. I have cleaned ,checked and refitted the oil filter, fuel pump, oil pump, oil pipes, inlet manifold and water pipe so far. Whilst at it I have checked the oil pressure relief valves on the block and oil pump.

The oil pump has been properly cleaned and put back together . The vanes have "0" marks on each vane so they can always be put back correctly. I have been using a rebuild oil (thick semi synthetic oil that stays in place for the first revolutions of an engine before the oil gets around - any one else use this ?) on the vanes and pressure relief valves.

Couple of pics showing the bits as they go together. The copper washers have all been re-tempered by heating to cherry-red and quenched. The oil pipe in the sump has the long bolt on the long side and the short on the short side .....

I am missing the bolt that holds the oil filter body on to the base, so have had to make one from a piece of M10 threaded rod - can anyone help with a the correct bolt - it needs to be a bit longer than the one in the picture, ideally 9.5 cm in length ?

This is the first time I am putting an Appia engine/box etc back together, so if I am doing anything daft or you can offer advice, please comment !


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