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« on: 19 May, 2013, 09:04:01 PM »

For the story of how I sort of accidentally bought a decrepit Flavia Sport see the "for sale" thread:

http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5920.0

More of that saga will follow in Viva Lancia.  It has sat for perhaps 35 years and the last ten or so in something of a compost bin.  Lots seized, lots turned to dust.  So far I've been back for a trip to clear out and clean up and again today to "stabalise the patient" for onward transport.

The best progress on the car is getting the dash straight, at least straight enough for now.  The steering wheel was a hazard from wood shards and a nuisannce with clouds of white dust every time it was touched.  Its been wrapped in paper, masking tape, duck tape.

Back at home the weighty and complex Lancia gear lever has provided much amusement relative to the lightweight and simple Zagato back seat.  Both have scrubbed up well enough to be going on with.

I think the photos really say it...

David


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« Reply #1 on: 19 May, 2013, 09:05:10 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: 19 May, 2013, 09:06:23 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: 19 May, 2013, 09:07:31 PM »

Anyone know what that "berkshire" rack is from or for?  There was hafl a thought it was to open the rear window but now I think it might be for something like a green house.


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« Reply #4 on: 19 May, 2013, 09:14:37 PM »

Now on to today's fun.  Another day, another bucket.

The sills having emptied themselves onto the floor there's space to tuck sturdy bits of wood up inside tight to the top and inner edge of the sills.  Large wood screws secure this to the better metal.  At the front thin folded plate and sturdy right angle brackets are attached with roofing screws to the best of what's left.  The result is that leaning on it no longer results in an obvious bend - perhaps 10mm of bend and the slits opening up - I shiver to remember.

The door skin came off in my hand giving me a chance to show the more imaginative of you how Zagato made them.  Alas steel has shrunk and ali split.  I think the steel can be patched but the instinct is that a skin from scratch would be easier than making new edges.  I'm a long way off any of that...

The nice surprise is what we think is a stainless steel fuel tank.  Initially I'd thought ali but its pretty scratch resistant.

David


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« Reply #5 on: 19 May, 2013, 09:16:24 PM »


The window adjusts at the rear for the in-out fit but so far I can't see if it does so at the front.

David


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« Reply #6 on: 19 May, 2013, 11:29:58 PM »

David,
I'm truly impressed with your progress and enthusiasm so far, brilliant!
Quite surprised to see just how good the dash crash padding looks knowing how most padding that age has suffered.
See you are already equipped for 'Barney Rubble' method of propulsion with plenty of fresh air ventilation to go with it.
Interesting to see that the radiator shutter mechanism is near identical to "Fays"

Good luck and keep the great pictures coming..

Brian
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« Reply #7 on: 20 May, 2013, 06:14:55 AM »

What a project! At least it's back isn't completely broken as you suspected. That's not unknown even for the Pininfarina Coupes.
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« Reply #8 on: 20 May, 2013, 07:26:05 AM »

You are very brave David. Its obviously going to provide hours of pleasure (as it is already) and I just hope that the body hasnt sagged.
Keep the photos etc coming!
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« Reply #9 on: 20 May, 2013, 07:08:44 PM »


Well spotted Brian - the dash IS in good condition.  The base is ali - hence a "job of moments" to bully it back into shape.  Over that is a very thin layer of foam then the vinyl both of which would pass for three years old let alone 50.  The contrast is the foam behind the roof lining which is crispy and dusty.  It appears to be that they glued foam to the roof then glued the roof lining to the foam tucking edges under the window and door trims.  For now I've sprung a lath of wood to hold it out the way.  It could do with another one or two of those pending a decision as to its future.

Progress is good at this point because it has to be.  Once its home it will have to compete for time with fixing the fence and pruning the hedge and all the rest let alone the other projects.  We'll see...  There's a heap of easy stuff to be getting on with - like seat scrubbing - that suits a "little and often" type approach in those brain dead idle moments when its not worth starting something else - given I can make the space to have something out and ongoing.

Has the body sagged?  The drivers door shuts properly now the skin is out of the way.   At first I thought there was some droop but now (with the skin gone) I'm not so sure.  The passenger door won't be opened until its home.  I was watching the fit as I jacked under the hinge (with the plates in place) and it wasn't obviously moving and it's not obviously out of alignment.  Its not something that has worried me up to now with the thought being that, with so much metal having to come out (and having fallen out) the car will be whatever size and shape I make it.  They'll have to be some scheme to brace and jig. 

Hours of pleasure indeed.  Something as simple as pulling the back light bulb holders out for safe keeping and pondering how they work is fun.  The gear lever deserves its TAV posted here. (the TAV is a thousand pages)  Why not one bar from ball to gearbox?  Why such a weight?  I'm starting to sympathise with the FIAT lot when they first came in to see what was going so wrong.  The other TAVs that jumped out were the washer system, the horn/light thing in the steering wheel I knew all about already, the Jolly van brakes are extraordinary - they doubled up the front callipers and put in an extra booster.  I was thinking of the queue of traffic following one up the mountain to be left well behind down hill and round the corners.

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« Reply #10 on: 20 May, 2013, 07:44:16 PM »

Good work! One method of keeping the headling in place is to sew it to sheets of "aircraft ply", fastened to the roof structure (similar to sheet balsawood) and around the same weight as "west of england cloth" perhaps. Richard
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« Reply #11 on: 20 May, 2013, 08:06:35 PM »


Headling... 

The temptation I've fought off is thirty seconds with a knife and have it gone.  The wood lath has got me past that stage so I can sit in there without manky cloth and foam dust everywhere.  It was almost as bad as the flour fine dust off the steering wheel with each touch.   

Of course really it needs to come out carefully and be saved as a pattern.  However I'm in no rush to remove and store trims and glass and there's some satisfaction to be hand from playing at conservation.

The next step is to scrape at the foam and get a vacuum in there.  From then it could be as simple as a couple of strips of double sided carpet tape and an extra strip or two behind the rips.  Perhaps new foam could be inserted.  It could be several neater and colour matched wood laths.  Another thought is some wire hoops, on the Eddins Moto site he mentioned using TIG wire to hold headlining back up.

A left field idea is to paint it.  Painted canvass is the traditional small boat covering.  The paint saturates and sticks the canvass much like doing GRP.

The other temptation to fight is a non standard finish for all I like the idea of some polished aluminium round the edges and a minimal section of acoustic carpet or vinyl or something over the "easy bit".

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« Reply #12 on: 20 May, 2013, 09:21:38 PM »

At the risk of a deja vue moment David..........and as per my signature....."Gulp....just what have you done!"

My Aurelia looks as if its ready for the road compared to this sick little puppy..........Wink.......BUT..........the best of luck with it and hope to see a thread filled with endless pics, and experiences as you tread the road to complete restoration


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« Reply #13 on: 20 May, 2013, 09:36:58 PM »


Its an adventure.  On the one hand I say "no pressure" as there's no deadline and I'm not going to add up costs vs value let alone time, on the other hand its a properly scary prospect.  "What could possibly go wrong?"   Well...  it could have been pulled in half being loaded onto a truck.  That door skin might have dropped off on the way home.

One heart stopper was taking out the back seat.  The end dropped and got stuck in the big rusty hole in the floor.  It would have been all too easy to give it an impatient tug and put the first rip in nearly fifty years into it.

I've no idea how I'm going to brace or jig the thing.  I enjoy gas welding but the thinnest ali I've done is about 1/4in so that's like trying to learn to ride a unicycle from a tricycle.  Lots to think about and all sorts to learn aside from the straight "everything needs doing and its about as hard as it gets" nature of it.

I'm ready for screw ups and disasters, but without the risk of those the highs aren't there either.

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« Reply #14 on: 23 May, 2013, 03:13:43 PM »

Re moving the Sport next week and there being hills at both ends of the journey, remind me, how good are the brakes ?
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