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« Reply #15 on: 30 March, 2013, 02:09:05 PM »

Well Tim, if we are going to build a data base and theres lots to go on it, why not use it to its fullest?  Just a suggestion to put out there, I'd think members would be hacked off when they realised postage costs from NI are 20-50% more than from within the 3 mainland countries......not much point in my taking it over when I don't know enough about either the tools or other aspects as a mere Lancia apprentice!


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« Reply #16 on: 30 March, 2013, 02:37:03 PM »

Here are 3 special tools that I have. Left is , I think a Fulvia 2 rear (?) hubtool, the middle one is something Aprilia (front suspension I think) and the right one is something else Fulvia, I think

I wonder if

1) we could identify what these are
2) make a note that I possess them and am happy to lend them out with appropriate deposit/insurance to LMC members
3) Compile or add to, a list of other member-owned special tools - with photo - either for reference or potential loan
4) it is just too complicated to do any of the above !!

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« Reply #17 on: 30 March, 2013, 02:38:11 PM »

Would help if I added the photo !


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« Reply #18 on: 30 March, 2013, 04:34:35 PM »

Simon

Left is more than likely rear hub nut for s2/3 Fulvia, and right is Fulvia S1 front hub nut. Both need to have a restraint to stop them slipping of these silly castellated nuts due to the very high torque applied to loosen. Otherwise the tool slips off and burrs (or possibly shears - front - the teeth off).

The club has these in UK stock at the moment.

Tim
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« Reply #19 on: 02 April, 2013, 10:42:03 AM »

Excellent, so the inventory could be added to the database, and maybe a spread sheet used to show what tools are in the inventory, and its uses, also was out on loan, when its expected back, hiring and postage costs?


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I don't wish to dampen the enthusiasm, but although the LMC has quite a few tools there is not a complete set of anything by model, which isn't surprising when you compare say Fulvia tools we have against the full list of Fulvia tools, but as Tim says there are a lot of useful tools in amongst the Fulvia Beta and Gamma tools that could and ought to be made better use of; while there are other tools such as for rebuilding integrale 4wd units, and other such obscure parts, that I don't think there will ever be a great call for!

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« Reply #20 on: 02 April, 2013, 11:40:17 AM »

I picked up on this thread and open a related one under : http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5964.0

"Should we store this information in the database in an index?"

But definately put a spreadsheet in the library at least Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: 02 April, 2013, 11:54:41 AM »

Indeed not Brian, but I've have no idea of whats held, or by whom or whats been lent out or how long for or when its to be returned. Again we are back to the LMC having valuable resources which new or potential members could avail of and keeping a tighter grip on these valuable and vital tools for the next generation of members.


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« Reply #22 on: 02 April, 2013, 11:57:40 AM »

Again, many members will have one off tools which they might only use once in 5/10/15 yrs, to buy ( if they are even available to buy) or manufacture would be prohibitive, they could be loaned to LMC to use for all members under strict conditions to the benefit of all.

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« Reply #23 on: 02 April, 2013, 03:53:24 PM »

Indeed not Brian, but I've have no idea of whats held, or by whom or whats been lent out or how long for or when its to be returned. Again we are back to the LMC having valuable resources which new or potential members could avail of and keeping a tighter grip on these valuable and vital tools for the next generation of members.


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Frank,

Prior to me taking over the tools there didn't seem to have been any limit on how long a member could keep hold of a tool/tools, this was deemed as unsatisfactory as it potentially meant that other members couldn't get them out on loan, as was indeed the case on Fulvia Hub tools when about a year ago members were trying to get hold of them.
The Committee have now drawn up a terms and conditions of use, which are for loan to LMC Members only, with a time limit and the cost of the hire and the postage, initially hire is for two weeks with a further charge if kept longer.
There are also postage costs, See copy of the Terms and conditions & charges below.
Due to how the systems has to work an up front deposit + initial Hire+ postage is payable by Cheque ONLY.
When the tools are returned in good condition then the balance of the deposit etc is returned to the members account shown on his cheque.
Previously as far as I can make out no one was charged a deposit or a hire fee, or an additional fee for keeping the tool longer than the original hire, there was no incentive for anyone to return the tools so that they would be available for another member if required.
In practice the postage fees may vary as there might be three components to one tool so it would put it into a higher postage band.
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Lancia Special Tools
Terms & Conditions of Hire.

Tools are categorised as.
Small  ( < 1 Kg).
Medium (<  5Kg)
Large  (<5Kg)

Small Deposit £20- Fee £5 per Fortnight, £5/Week Addn. Postage out £5.

Medium Deposit £50 -Fee £10 per fortnight, /£10/week Addn. Postage out £10.

Large Deposit £100-Fee £15 Per Fortnight,£15/week Addn. Postage out £20.

Borrowers will pay by cheque only made out to The Lancia Motor Club, and will be for Deposit, plus one fortnightly charge, plus postage.

The Deposit will be returned to borrower less any costs, and will be made after the tools have been returned in a satisfactory condition,  as judged by the custodian.

Borrowers would lose their deposit if the tool was returned in an unusable condition.
If the tool is retained for more than the initial fortnightly hire, this would require a further fee under the terms of lending which would be taken from the borrowers deposit before return of balance.

I Agree to the above terms and conditions of hire

Signed.

LMC Membership Number.

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« Reply #24 on: 02 April, 2013, 04:13:27 PM »

Thanks for that Brian, very useful, is this loan agreement written in our LMC handbook or separately etc?


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« Reply #25 on: 02 April, 2013, 05:26:49 PM »

Frank

Currently, when someone makes an enquiry they will receive a loan form (from me). I hope to systemise this with Steve Pilgrim but am only just starting out. Get a Fulvia and test the system!!!

Tim
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1998 Zeta 21.  12v
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« Reply #26 on: 02 April, 2013, 06:22:46 PM »

Get a Fulvia........is that sorta like that old advert....."Get ahead.....get a hat!"

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I will let some one else take up your kind offer! Keep up the good work.

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« Reply #27 on: 02 April, 2013, 07:21:31 PM »

That's funny Frank I like that Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: 02 April, 2013, 09:11:47 PM »

That's funny Frank I like that Cheesy

You heard it here first......Smiley


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« Reply #29 on: 02 April, 2013, 09:30:40 PM »

That's funny Frank I like that Cheesy

You heard it here first......Smiley


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PS Thats a copyright protected phrase.....Wink

Hats off to you. Now will you get back to your B12.
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21.  12v
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