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« Reply #30 on: 26 February, 2013, 11:38:24 PM »


Where else?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984.m570.l1313&_nkw=cleco&_sacat=0&_from=R40

I like these as well which work with the same pliers:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIRCRAFT-TOOLS-SET-OF-5-CLECO-CLAMPS-1-INCH-/121065541591?pt=UK_Air_Tools_and_Compressors&hash=item1c30118fd7

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« Reply #31 on: 03 March, 2013, 11:39:13 AM »

Will the Orange be Rosso san Siro like my JLG65K in the Goodwood photo? Look forward to seeing the car again. Richard
Ed Levin's orange car


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« Reply #32 on: 03 March, 2013, 03:44:30 PM »

Hi Richard, I have the paint code for Ed Levin's car courtesy of Jonathan (bruciebonuz) and have had a test aerosol made up. It seems to be an exact match for the Rosso sans Ciro sample you gave me when I collected the Fulvia Berlina and at the moment we are leaning heavily towards using it. Decision has to be made soon!

Anyone out there any idea of the code for Rosso sans Ciro. My research has drawn a blank.

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« Reply #33 on: 03 March, 2013, 03:52:00 PM »

It's Glasurit code LAN 212. I've got the paint mix details as well if you need them. This for a 1971 paint, don't know if it varied year to year.
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« Reply #34 on: 03 March, 2013, 05:47:07 PM »

I'm sure the orange colour of Ed Levin's car is not Rosso San Ciro.
Rosso San Ciro was a colour exclusive to the Fulvia 1600 Sport Zagato, which can best be described as Salmon PINK!
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« Reply #35 on: 03 March, 2013, 06:11:33 PM »

With respect to others with greater knowledge - Ed Leven's car is Rosso San Siro (as is the colour of the ex Franco Subbiani's 1600 Sport that mopped up the Concours prizes at quite a number of AGMs a few years ago).  Zagato also had another own colour for the Sport - Rosso Salmone, which is very much 'pink'.  Never seen a complete car in that colour but have seen a bonnet panel.  There are those out there who have ?

Peter Pompilli did some research into the colour numbers and San Siro is listed as 1259 Z and 2259 Z and the same numbers minus the Z under Lesonal ( or 10259 Z?).  I also have a note of 192 under Lechler.

Apparently, Phil Mitchell may have the chip numbers.

Speaking to Andrew Cliffe some years ago when Omicron had their racer Sport at the AGM in Witney, Oxford, he said that their car (and it looked a good colour match) had been painted in the base coat colour of one of the paint mixing suppliers, before various quantities of other colours are added to get a manufacturers' match.

Finally - in the Zagato Register photo archive, I have a number of Sports in San Siro.  If you would like to see them, send a PM.

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« Reply #36 on: 03 March, 2013, 06:30:42 PM »

With respect to others with greater knowledge - Ed Leven's car is Rosso San Siro

I think you're right. That's the colour I've given the code for, I assumed Ciro was a typo  Tongue
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« Reply #37 on: 03 March, 2013, 06:52:38 PM »

This is a photo of (I presume) Franco Subbiani's 1600 Sport. I thought this car was a little orange for the colour that I thought was Rosso San Siro, so if it is and I stand to be corrected, San Siro, the colour that I was thinking about which was much more pink must be the Rosso Salmone.


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« Reply #38 on: 03 March, 2013, 10:56:16 PM »

With respect to others with greater knowledge - Ed Leven's car is Rosso San Siro (as is the colour of the ex Franco Subbiani's 1600 Sport that mopped up the Concours prizes at quite a number of AGMs a few years ago).  Zagato also had another own colour for the Sport - Rosso Salmone, which is very much 'pink'.  Never seen a complete car in that colour but have seen a bonnet panel.  There are those out there who have ?

Peter Pompilli did some research into the colour numbers and San Siro is listed as 1259 Z and 2259 Z and the same numbers minus the Z under Lesonal ( or 10259 Z?).  I also have a note of 192 under Lechler.

Apparently, Phil Mitchell may have the chip numbers.

Speaking to Andrew Cliffe some years ago when Omicron had their racer Sport at the AGM in Witney, Oxford, he said that their car (and it looked a good colour match) had been painted in the base coat colour of one of the paint mixing suppliers, before various quantities of other colours are added to get a manufacturers' match.

Finally - in the Zagato Register photo archive, I have a number of Sports in San Siro.  If you would like to see them, send a PM.

Regards - Roddy

Mike Guest used to have a Zagato in Rosso Salmone and it was a bit violent on the eyes! Roll Eyes
, I'll see if I can find the photo, this was back in the 1990's at an Autoitalia day at Brooklands.
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« Reply #39 on: 04 March, 2013, 12:25:13 AM »

Many thanks guys for all the input.

Details that I was given for the colour of Ed Levin's Fanalone as follows;

Factory Code 911   Ypsilon Kaleidos   Glasurit LAN 911   Glasurit Line 22 Single Stage.

I've had this translated to ICI 420  5YX5 which when mixed is indistinguishable (to my eye) from the Rosso sans Ciro paint sample Richard gave me  that was on his Fulvia Sport.

As posted earlier we are trying to put our Fanalone back to something like it was when Barry Waterhouse rallied it and it would seem totally in character for him to have painted it the orange used on the then current Fulvia Sport.

Robin.

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« Reply #40 on: 04 March, 2013, 08:48:12 AM »

More of a pink colour, this is 'light coral red' I think an option for Alfa Giulietta in the mid fifties


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« Reply #41 on: 07 March, 2013, 02:57:20 PM »

More orange


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« Reply #42 on: 07 March, 2013, 09:00:14 PM »

Hello Richard

Did you take this photo of the RHD 1600 Sport?  I cannot make out the details of the Registration plate, although it is obviously abroad somewhere (Japan?).  The two cars behind seem to be LHD. 

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« Reply #43 on: 08 March, 2013, 10:12:34 AM »

Hi Roddy, the photo is from http://zagatoclub.jp/


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« Reply #44 on: 12 March, 2013, 11:27:59 PM »

Jonathan gave me a nudge this evening to say that an up-date was needed for CUC especially as there seemed to be a takeover by the Fulvia Sport! However, he understands that with the discussion centered around Rosso san Siro paint and that as that colour was exclusive to the Sport, pictures of it are of that variant.

It is proving impossible to find a supplier for R-s-S. Neil Cundy kindly emailed a copy of the Glasurit colour card showing it and the formula but so far I've found no one able to mix it. It has one very expensive tinter and they don't stock it. It looks as though we are going to have to take a guess at it and use an orange paint that is easy to source.

I have managed to get a sample of the paint used on Ed Levin's Fanalone but not sure that I like it as I much prefer the look of Franco Subbiani's 1600 Sport. I appreciate that colours are not always accurately reproduced in photographs and I may be completely wrong. It would be perfect if I could get hold of a panel painted in R-s-S and get as close a match as I can.

Time is running out and a decision has to be taken soon.

Robin.


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