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« on: 14 March, 2012, 02:06:49 AM »

Australia likes its cars to have intrusion bars in their front doors.  I have a feeling that Deltas may well have these as part of their crash protection/safety spec.  Can anyone confirm (and ideally send me some evidence)?
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« Reply #1 on: 14 March, 2012, 09:24:56 AM »

Australia likes its cars to have intrusion bars in their front doors.  I have a feeling that Deltas may well have these as part of their crash protection/safety spec.  Can anyone confirm (and ideally send me some evidence)?

Chris,
This article would suggest not http://writeonmotoring.com/safety/the-evolution-of-car-safety-testing-side-impact
But I would have thought it would have, what you need is a Brochure showing safety equipment for evidence in print or whip off a door pad and have a look!

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« Reply #2 on: 14 March, 2012, 11:58:17 AM »

No mention of door bar safety in the 1993-1994 integrale sales brochure only this quote
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As for safety, four extra-large disc brakes behind 16" alloy wheels are backed by 6-sensor ABS.
I've never seen any bars inside the doors other than the window mechanism when the trim has been removed.
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« Reply #3 on: 14 March, 2012, 05:35:46 PM »

No mention of door bar safety in the 1993-1994 integrale sales brochure only this quote
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As for safety, four extra-large disc brakes behind 16" alloy wheels are backed by 6-sensor ABS.
I've never seen any bars inside the doors other than the window mechanism when the trim has been removed.

Looking through my Lancia brochures the first mention and illustration of them is in a Dedra brochure dated 1996, they do not  appear in any previous brochures, so I think the answer to Chris's question is no they are not fitted to his Delta.

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« Reply #4 on: 14 March, 2012, 10:05:23 PM »

Well I guess mine might be the first to have them retro-fitted (there is quite a cottage industry here doing this to imports).  My review of the brochures I have suggests that the structural safety on the Delta was restricted to crumple zones.
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« Reply #5 on: 14 March, 2012, 11:57:26 PM »

Well I guess mine might be the first to have them retro-fitted (there is quite a cottage industry here doing this to imports).  My review of the brochures I have suggests that the structural safety on the Delta was restricted to crumple zones.

Do they then crash test the car to prove they work Grin

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« Reply #6 on: 15 March, 2012, 11:15:30 PM »

Well I guess mine might be the first to have them retro-fitted (there is quite a cottage industry here doing this to imports).  My review of the brochures I have suggests that the structural safety on the Delta was restricted to crumple zones.

Do they then crash test the car to prove they work Grin

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You evil man, what a horrible thought... Shocked  I think its going to cost me an arm and a leg anyway, so it will be painful enough...
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« Reply #7 on: 18 May, 2012, 09:29:56 PM »

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Have you tried the New Zealand forum dedicated to the Lancia Delta lanciadelta.freeforums.org There are a lot of members who have restored their deltas including a couple of Australian members (one in Tasmania?) who may help you with compliance.

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« Reply #8 on: 23 May, 2012, 11:31:49 AM »

Thank you NI - is that where you are?  I think, inasmuch as anyone can be sure confronting Aussie bureaucracy, that intrusion bars won't be necessary, since my car counts as a personal import.  However, I'll check out the forum, as I need all the help I can get!
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« Reply #9 on: 24 May, 2012, 08:02:06 AM »

Hi Chris,
Good to see that the lanciadelta forum has turned up a lead for you. I have been through my share of compliance issues here in NZ. My car was shipped nearly a year ago and it still isn't quite in my garage.

Norfolk Island have their own compliance regime, though I have no intention of testing that - maximum speed limit 50km/hr and roads not suited to firm suspension.
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