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« Reply #60 on: 27 November, 2012, 10:14:57 AM »

One can cut corners and refettle old components in all sorts of areas to keep costs down but brakes, tyres and steering - no way. Fit a new master cylinder, tyres and so on.
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« Reply #61 on: 27 November, 2012, 07:34:41 PM »

I second Chris' comments.

Talk to Peter Harding (01256 766880) for the master cylinder, he does new ones that fit with very little modification.
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« Reply #62 on: 27 November, 2012, 08:10:25 PM »

Thanks guys, all noted and will be acted on.

A few more hours done this eve....ie scraping and cleaning.......getting a little mini-printer item to tag all the tagliatelle of wiring we've come across.

Reservoir dismounted, petrol lines loosen, other wiring loosened for Fridays tagging.



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« Reply #63 on: 28 November, 2012, 08:15:16 PM »

Ok...so on dismounting the main fusebox which we'd thought about labelling up on Friday, we then decided to re-connect all wires to same again and remove the box with labelled wiring from the dashboard by withdrawing the wires back through the handy opening in the bulkhead. Bar a few wires most seem in decent order.


The radio is a two box affair the size of a small filing cabinet! Some buttons missing off it, not sure if salvageable....or does any know a good "Lazarus" type radio restorer??!!


End of play for this week, next week will finalise removal of front loom, remove remainder instruments and other items from engine bay so it too can be cleaned up. Week after remove brakes and rear assembly...Smiley


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« Reply #64 on: 28 November, 2012, 09:40:55 PM »

This is an old cylinder I have, it looks clean enough, but even with a honing and new seals did not work. I'd simply buy a new one.
Regarding the wiring loom. I re-wired my own car using coloured wires. After tagging each end and taking lots of photos, I took out the complete with fusebox attached. Laid it on the floor and fitted coloured wiring,each circuit at a time.I followed the colour coding as used on modern Fiats. I left each wire maybe a foot longer, which gave a bit of freedom when refitting.
I got a local auto tech to rewire the 'other' B20 I am working on. What he did was clever, he used coloured wiring, but covered each wire with 'shrink' black coloured tubing. This gave the impression that the loomwas original, yet also provided a little bit of colour to be able to connect properly.


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« Reply #65 on: 28 November, 2012, 10:34:04 PM »

Thanks again Kevin, those titbits of previous experiences are invaluable, avoiding false economies and saving time....never mind a guys life!!!

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« Reply #66 on: 29 November, 2012, 03:32:02 PM »

This is who I used to restore the Condor radio in my car:-
A.C. James
10 Westview
Paulton, Bristol. BS39 7XJ
Tel: 01761 413933.

I had all the original valves etc taken out and fitted with modern electronics to receive FM, there is also a hidden fly lead in the glovebox to plug into a MP3 player.
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« Reply #67 on: 29 November, 2012, 05:38:14 PM »

Thank you, will take note and use,

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« Reply #68 on: 29 November, 2012, 08:27:59 PM »

paint stripping: 1st tape up all edges door gaps etc that you dont want to strip, i usually use a foil tape and then masking tape over that, then i use a comercial stripper, litterally pour it on the car and ruh out so its nice and thick on top of the paint, cover the panel with thin polythene sheet to stop it evapourating (this really works well!!), once cleaned off i use wurth scotchbrite cup wheels in a low speed grinder polisher to remove the rest of the paint, this process does not put too much heat into panels which most blasting does, too much heat = distorted panels  Angry


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« Reply #69 on: 29 November, 2012, 08:30:14 PM »

hope this answers your questions frank, thought i'd post the reply on here incase of use to anyone else, j


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« Reply #70 on: 29 November, 2012, 09:34:07 PM »

As ever many thanks James.....we intend to use the striping and mild abrasive method on every thing about 10 inches from the sills upwards.....sand blast below if at all possible, as you say reduced pressure/heat means less work later.

This technique is also safe for the aluminium panels, or just the chemical only? Also, this won't lift away any filler ...but will lift away that older type of very thick undercoat they used originally at the factory?

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« Reply #71 on: 29 November, 2012, 09:41:08 PM »

 ne on alloy just use chemical to strip off as much as poss 1st, a'm doing at moment has alloy panels and works fine on them
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« Reply #72 on: 29 November, 2012, 09:48:33 PM »

Just modifed the above post James......last line


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« Reply #73 on: 29 November, 2012, 09:59:27 PM »

filler is harder to shift but thats why we use the product in the pictures, it chews everything!!!, its taken 1 man 2 days to do the fulvia and the 3rd day will be using the polisher to finish off, all awkward area's ie seams and headlamp panels etc will be locally blasted after this process, cellulose tends to melt with blasting and become a gooey mess that spreads around rather than blast off
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« Reply #74 on: 29 November, 2012, 10:01:52 PM »

Thanks, not seeing a supplier for the Wurth wheels, know a nation wide supplier or recommend someone?


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