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« Reply #225 on: 03 September, 2013, 08:28:22 PM »


I get the photo.
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« Reply #226 on: 03 September, 2013, 08:39:09 PM »

No photo on that post Richard...least not for me, reload?


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Can see it now...just how old is/was that tyre Richard??!!


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« Reply #227 on: 04 September, 2013, 09:41:57 AM »

Out of warranty I suppose. Also, I found some stainless steel wipers amongst the jumble at Honnington


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« Reply #228 on: 04 September, 2013, 10:45:13 AM »

'Trico',one arm adjustable one not.


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« Reply #229 on: 04 September, 2013, 11:07:35 AM »

Thats a hefty failing Richard, hope you weren't travelling much above 30!!!


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« Reply #230 on: 04 September, 2013, 11:27:29 AM »

Slowing from 40 approaching a 30 zone
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« Reply #231 on: 05 September, 2013, 03:16:37 PM »

175 400 tyres don't seem to be available, so may have find a set of 165s. I have been given one+innertube today which is now mounted.Thanks to Bob.
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« Reply #232 on: 06 September, 2013, 08:20:21 AM »

Hi Richard. my car is fitted with 165-400s (which I thought was standard).  I had a puncture coming back from SpaItalia last year while doing about 80 on the Brussels - Dunkirk autoroute (I fitted the spare by the roadside - quite illegal but we didn't miss the ferry.)  The tyre was ruined, of course, but Longstone have them in stock and a new one quickly arrived.  My local tyre fitters told me that driving on motorways with tubed tyres is no longer recommended - because of the blowout problem. Tubeless rims are available for Flaminias from various sources but always pretty pricey.  Is it not possible to convert tubed rims by enlarging the valve hole?  Has anyone tried it?   
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« Reply #233 on: 06 September, 2013, 11:38:35 AM »

You’ve scared me, I regularly travel at 80 / 90 mph along long stretches of motorways. I did think of converting but unless all 5 tyres go at the same time (that would be a feat) it wouldn’t be worth it.
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« Reply #234 on: 06 September, 2013, 02:06:05 PM »

Blowout problem? Huh?

To me this is nonsense!

Fit new tyres (new, not from some shelf, or from the back garden) regularly, when you fit new tyres change also the tubes (no skimping on a few quid!), check your pressures regularly, and you are fine.

I have never ever had a blown tyre with a tube (in the last 30 years)!
The only time a tyre burst on the motorway at speed was on my wife's car, because of too low tyre pressure - and that tyre was tubeless!

However the Flaminia Coupe is a very heavy car, and I can imagine  that a marginal (worn, old, ....) 165-400 Michelin X has difficulties to cope with all that weight.
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« Reply #235 on: 07 September, 2013, 07:03:47 AM »

I agree, but I think that the point is that if tubed tyres do get a puncture (however unlikely), they deflate in seconds whereas tubeless tyres tend to deflate slowly (sometimes very slowly) so that the alert driver can sense the problem and pull off the road before the tyre is completely flat.
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« Reply #236 on: 08 September, 2013, 08:00:58 PM »

James (Chugga), is there an official industry view on this situation? Especially use of tubed tyres at speed on motorways and also, modifying tubed tyre wheels to accept tubeless tyres.

I quite understand if you feel that it is not appropriate to comment on these matters in  an open forum such as this.

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« Reply #237 on: 08 September, 2013, 08:49:53 PM »

ALL tyre manufacturers state a 5yr life span on any tyre, if a police vehicle comes in any tyres regardless of tread depth MUST be scrapped if approaching 5yrs old, caravan insurance companies will now not insure said trailers with tyres over 5yrs old, gig problem that people don't take into concideration with tyres is RUST!!!! as the rubber cracks or is punctured water can get into the steel cables of the casing and cause rust, rusty wire breaks up hey presto blow out, rubber has also come along way in the last 10 yrs, even though a 165 400 Michelin x looks the same as always its not, the rubber compound is much softer to give better breaking and road holding, also as rubber gets old it gets hard which means less grip, I have a brand new set of 175hr14's Michelin xas's which came with my HF, these will never be used even though they are brand new to look at, rubber does not get better with age , something to make you think is that the footprint of an average modernday tyre is about the size of your palm, so when your cruising at 60 70 80 mph just think that's ALL that's keeping you on the road, my argument is a set of tyres is cheaper than the value of your car or life so hense I wont mess with them, the risks of failure far out way the benefits (if there are any) of using old or s/h tyres, I could bang on all day about old and partworn tyres but recently we have visited MIRA and done extensive testing on these sorts of tyres, im proud to say that we are in partnership with goodyear Dunlop   who always keep us very aware of these risks, at mira  it was also demonstrated the real difference between a quality brand and a budget tyre, this was also alarming!! if anyone is interested I can see if I can find the links to the mira tests and post them
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« Reply #238 on: 08 September, 2013, 09:18:11 PM »

also to answer the question about tubed and tubless tyres, yes a tube tyre will go down quicker if puctured however a tube type tyre is smooth on the inside where as a tubless has reinforcing ribs inside, what I have seen in the past is tubless tyres tubed and this chaffs the tube causing a blow out, also there are 2 different grades of tube, cheap chinese or Michelin , Michelin seem to be twice the thickness but are also twice the price however in reality would probably last 4 times aslong as they don't chaff like cheap tubes, sorry to be an anorack  Wink
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« Reply #239 on: 10 September, 2013, 04:32:13 PM »

Thanks James.
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