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Author Topic: What value a Fulvia 1.3 engine  (Read 1677 times)
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HF_Dave
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« on: 10 July, 2011, 10:52:13 AM »

I have had a guy (recent Fulvia owner) come to me here in Ireland looking for a Fulvia 1.3 engine. I have two spare engines in stock, one is worn with noisy internals and the other is siezed from being left outside. Neither  engine is good enough to transplant. I sent him to another chap who has an engine with a stuck valve, but I think he wants a perfect engine. I don't think he will find one that easy here in Ireland. I want to hang on to a spare and re-build later, so i am wondering what the cost of a re-build is and what is the value of a worn fulvia engine. The guy is not a member. Thanks david,  Smiley
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1973 Flavia HF 2000 Coupe
1972 Fulvia S2 1.3
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« Reply #1 on: 10 July, 2011, 05:18:12 PM »

A proper complete rebuild with minimum parts required:

complete strip
proper clean (professionally dipped)
plugs out of the crank and clean
new rings
re-honed
new bearings
carb rebuild
water pump rebuild
all new gaskets and seals
new timing chain


if you do all the labour yourself and farm out a few bits (the cleaning and the re-honing) it will cost about 1000 in parts. Done professionally I doubt you get change from 5K (for a standard engine). If it requires new valve guides an valves then probably another 400+ will be needed. I've done both 1300 and 1600 engines and the cost is about the same as long as the specifically different parts are not broke (a 1300 crank is a lot easier and cheaper to find than a 1600 crank for instance).

At a guess I would have thought a 1300 engine requiring the above would be in the 500 range. A 1600 engine (because of its rarity, perceived desirability and the rarity of some specific bits would be 2000+).

A siezed engine will likely require about another 1000 spent on it (new pistons + re-bore), so the noisy engine is probably the better bet.


Hope that helps, and any other opinions welcome as that's just my view.

Neil
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« Reply #2 on: 10 July, 2011, 10:04:40 PM »

Neils figures sound pretty good, I had to have a complete rebuild in 2000 and even then with rebore & oversize pistons for "Fays" 1091cc, it cost me over a 1000.

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« Reply #3 on: 11 July, 2011, 10:04:51 AM »

Thanks Neils & Brian for the reply, I think I would be better off to keep the smokey engine as a spare and re-build in the future, I have come across a lot of  laid up Fulvia's with around 75,000mls on the clock , I reckon the life of the engine is around this milage. I'm sure if cared for better theyt would last longer. Thanks David.  Smiley
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1989 Thema 16v

1977 Beta sedan 2000
1975 Fulvia S3 1.3
1973 Flavia HF 2000 Coupe
1972 Fulvia S2 1.3
1989 Thema 8.32
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« Reply #4 on: 11 July, 2011, 11:52:09 AM »

OMG 500 for an old engine and up to 5k to restore?

Either your keyboard is adding zeros Neil or I need to re-value my collection of engines. I would have thought 100 to 300 for an old engine depending on condition and perhaps 400 to 800 to rebuild one.

I must re-write the part of my will relating to the disposal of my garage contents - David, consider yourself disinherited but promoted to executor status.

Herself will be very pleased about this.... once she gets over losing me.

Alan
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« Reply #5 on: 11 July, 2011, 08:59:26 PM »

Yeah!! The deal is already done. Grin
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My Current Cars:
1997 Ypsilon 1.2 16v
2003 Ypsilon 16v
1989 Thema 16v

1977 Beta sedan 2000
1975 Fulvia S3 1.3
1973 Flavia HF 2000 Coupe
1972 Fulvia S2 1.3
1989 Thema 8.32
**Other Makes**
2008 Fiat 500
2006 Fiat Croma
2009 Fiat Ducato160ps,Mu
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