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« Reply #15 on: 04 June, 2011, 06:20:47 PM »

Or try this link (ici on parle Francaise)
http://www.amicale-salmson.org/phorum/read.php?1,17321,17330)
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« Reply #16 on: 04 June, 2011, 09:58:42 PM »

I have a copy of the Andre manual on my publications page if that helps anyone.
http://web.me.com/noelmacwhirter/home/Publications.html

Tim if you have any problems with your Houdailles you could always follow the Sterling Moss example, in the photo he's actually belting the daylights out of the stuck Houdaille shocks on the 250F using a wheel mallet Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: 05 June, 2011, 09:31:51 AM »

David

It seems that the yanks used Glycerin - and gorrilla mechanics to service the Houdialles fitted to Fords, where as your French forum clear extolls the use of Castor Oil.

I have now got some pharma quality castor oil and will carry out a "tasting" (ugh)...

Noel - I alway carry a 3lb mallet with me...

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« Reply #18 on: 08 June, 2011, 09:14:18 AM »

Tasting update...seems my shocks had Castor oil (AFAICT) so topped up with my new supply - one side didnt need too much while the other (o/s) took 125ml's I suspect the seal has gone but am in no hurry to try to dismantle having read the Houdaille manual on the subject. Amyone had a go and is it possible??

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« Reply #19 on: 08 June, 2011, 07:06:30 PM »

Sterling chap, Stirling.
Re Andre Telecontrol, the correct fluid is 30% glycerin in water.   
Look on the technical information thread for full details of this system at
http://web.me.com/noelmacwhirter/home/Publications_files/Andre%20Telecontrol.pdf
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« Reply #20 on: 08 June, 2011, 09:05:09 PM »

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I suspect the seal has gone but am in no hurry to try to dismantle having read the Houdaille manual on the subject. Amyone had a go and is it possible??

you should see signs of a leak if there is one.The type fitted to the aprilia is very long lived and reliable and in practical terms cannot be (and doesn't need to be) serviced outside of topping up oil.I had mine tested on a test bench because i assumed they would be worn but they perfomed very well.
In addition the mot here involves a very demanding suspension test which vibrates the wheels at varying frequencies with an electronic graph of the damping performance and balance of the two sides. The houdailles comfortable exceed the requirements whereas several nieuwe models actually don't reach them eg the nieuwe fiat 500 which is causing legal problems and warranty disputes with dealers in belgium.
I understand there is only one reliable company that can take them apart (in the US). attempting this yourself or in a local willing workshop will simply end up as destructive testing .
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« Reply #21 on: 09 June, 2011, 08:26:44 AM »

"you should see signs of a leak if there is one.The type fitted to the aprilia is very long lived and reliable and in practical terms cannot be (and doesn't need to be) serviced outside of topping up oil.I had mine tested on a test bench because i assumed they would be worn but they perfomed very well." quote...

I dont suspect any issues re damping performance. It is just a shame that the automatic seal adjusment may have ceased working. I agree looking at some US posts on the dampers it is ever so likely to end in tears...

Tim
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« Reply #22 on: 28 June, 2011, 03:08:03 PM »

ON NO ACCOUNT use brake fluid.
Correct fluid is 30% glycerin in water.  See technical matters only post for manufacturer's original information.
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