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« on: 01 March, 2011, 03:35:48 PM »

I will be at Geneva Show over the weekend, is anyone else going?   
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« Reply #1 on: 01 March, 2011, 10:00:45 PM »

I wish...  Take some photos for us!
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« Reply #2 on: 01 March, 2011, 10:24:54 PM »

Will try, if I can see through the tears! An image from 2009 to cheer us up.


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« Reply #3 on: 02 March, 2011, 09:22:31 PM »

Pictures of the new Flavia.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news-g-image/geneva-2011-lancia-flavia-concept-live-photos/46941.html#image

I'll admit to actually quite liking it...

It actually looks better than the rather odd bicolore Ypsilon that is on the stand, see...

http://www.autoevolution.com/news-g-image/geneva-2011-lancia-ypsilon-live-photos/47227.html#image
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« Reply #4 on: 02 March, 2011, 09:30:29 PM »

And here is the Thema...

http://www.autoevolution.com/news-g-image/geneva-2011-lancia-thema-live-photos/46807.html#image

Interior looks better quality than the Flavia, but styling a bit on the heavy side.  Still warming to it more than I thought though... Undecided
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« Reply #5 on: 02 March, 2011, 10:15:27 PM »

I like the new Ypsilon, especially the bonnet shut line and rear lights. I'm not afraid to admit a liking for the Thema/300, size wise it's still too big but I think Centro Stile (?) have done a fair job with what's a clunky three box saloon. But, sorry, the 200 (it can never be a Flavia), is still wrong, the odd imbalanced proportions of the original Sebring are still far too evident. Let's hope that feedback at Geneva and elsewhere is less than positive on this car and it stays a concept and doesn't enter production. As a Chrysler 200 it was pretty unsuccessful in the UK. Let it stay in the US. With Ypsilon, Delta, Thema and Voyager, Lancia have a reasonable model line-up that'll see them through the next couple of years before a fully Italian designed, non-rebadged range is available. I wonder if there's anywhere to leave feedback on the 200?
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« Reply #6 on: 02 March, 2011, 11:42:59 PM »

Pictures of the new Flavia.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news-g-image/geneva-2011-lancia-flavia-concept-live-photos/46941.html#image

I'll admit to actually quite liking it...

It actually looks better than the rather odd bicolore Ypsilon that is on the stand, see...

http://www.autoevolution.com/news-g-image/geneva-2011-lancia-ypsilon-live-photos/47227.html#image
Can't make my mind up whether to laugh or cry, the Flavia is just another modern lump devoid of Lancia Character or styling.
The Ypsilon design team must have worked with the lot at Renault who designed the Avantime, looks like two different design teams worked on either end without either telling the other what they had in mind, but on balance the back end team win, ghastly front grille, and I quite agree with Chris about the bizarre two tone, the bonnet looks like something just plonked on the top instead of blending in, mainly due to the paint job.
If the Ypsilon had the same style grille as the Thema, I would have assumed they were trying to save money by using the same grille, it's far too big.
Funny enough the one that works for me, although a bit more flair on the interior would help, is the Thema, especially the rear end treatment with overtones of Flaminia Berlina.
I shall reserve final judgement until I've seen them in the metal.

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« Reply #7 on: 04 March, 2011, 08:22:35 AM »


Flavia- No! No! No! It's oddly proportioned (obvious evolvement of the previous unloved & much criticised Sebring) and from the photo's the interior looks cheap and nasty compared to the Delta. As Lee says leave as a Chrysler, it is not necessary in the current range, who would buy it, its hardly a A4/159/IS/3-Series/C-Class/S60 rival and nobody buys 3-box saloons at a smaller level (think Jetta/Focus & Astra saloons etc). It will flop.

Similarly the 300 sorry Thema, its obviously American, the exterior does not move the game on from the current 300C and is not a patch on the quirky Thesis, although the interior looks good with the hand stitched leather dash etc.

Ypsilon for me sits too high, is awkward and visibility for rear seat passengers particularly children will be seriously impaired. Not chic enough compared to current/last Ypsilon. Can't see many buyers diverting from the Audi showrooms.

Having said all these things, we really need to see them in the flesh particularly the Ypsilon whose first launch photos seemed much much better, these photos are not the best however first impressions usually count and in my opinion they are not good enough. Hopefully comments from the motoring press/media will be favourable and the cars drive/ride/handle well and are super efficient.

I want to be proved wrong on this.
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« Reply #8 on: 04 March, 2011, 08:51:09 AM »

Will we start thinking of the Ypsilon as the last 'real' Lancia? Now theres a thought.
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« Reply #9 on: 04 March, 2011, 12:57:06 PM »

We'll definately need a new 'Era' on the website and in the database ... suggestions for names anyone ?
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« Reply #10 on: 04 March, 2011, 02:35:42 PM »

'The Lost Years'.
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« Reply #11 on: 04 March, 2011, 09:15:55 PM »

Lancia inc.
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« Reply #12 on: 04 March, 2011, 09:28:12 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: 05 March, 2011, 09:03:22 PM »

I used to FANCIA A LANCIA Cry
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« Reply #14 on: 06 March, 2011, 11:20:53 AM »

Hm. Having now seen the cars Im convinced this is actually a good move. The company are very upbeat while new Ypsilon has turned into a more grown up car and I like it, as I do the Flavia convertible. Suggest we accept that this is 2011, things have changed for everybody and we start showing more support for Fiat. Sorry cant post pictures at the moment.
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