williamcorke
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fay66
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« Reply #1 on: 16 August, 2010, 12:49:22 AM » |
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Looks as those it's just come out from hibernation somewhere on the Continent, lovely time warp Aurelia. Brian 8227  |
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« Reply #2 on: 16 August, 2010, 06:25:16 AM » |
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I have asked contacts in Belgium if they know the car. Will post any reply. The lack of documents is a worry!
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« Reply #3 on: 16 August, 2010, 07:02:10 AM » |
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I cant help but be suspicious when there are no documents or recent history. Or am I just being cynical?Also the Chassis number is not shown in the photos as far as I can see. Also a little worrying when there are no papers. From what I can remember, Belgium's paperwork and registering requirements for old cars is pretty rigorous so again why no papers?
The price seems quite low (at the moment) and I would have thought that one of the active Belgian Lancia members would have some previous knowledge of this car.
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DavidLaver
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« Reply #4 on: 16 August, 2010, 07:11:49 AM » |
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Wouldn't it be great if the International Collective of Clubs or whatever it's called had a register of cars that were stolen... We'd know in a couple of clicks, and they'd know we'd know in a couple of clicks.
Odds are its been well stored the last 20, 30, 40 years and the papers have not. The Strada Abarth I was given had only been put away for a couple of years, less than five, but it took him three years more for the papers to surface. A house move wasn't enough for them to surface, a sort through before moving abroad and he found them.
All the same the vendor could be more reassuring... Its human nature to want the back-story.
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« Reply #5 on: 16 August, 2010, 11:11:42 AM » |
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Nice car but I wonder if i'ts all that honest, there seems to be a lot of prep work carried out underneath, the tank has been sprayed with schults, I wonder what that's hiding ?. I'd say its been in storage for a long time but judging by the state of the door cards it must have been fairly damp. Still a nice project if you get it at the right money  |
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williamcorke
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« Reply #6 on: 16 August, 2010, 03:22:51 PM » |
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So the seller (actually, it seems, the seller's agent) has responded to several questions on the ebay listing page.
The car is a B21, and the chassis number is B21-3532
On ownership and title, the replies are still a bit hazy, to my way of reading anyway. The line is that there are no papers because the car was bought with several others. I don't have to point out the flawed logic in this excuse to educated readers from the LMC...
Whatever the real story, I'm very tempted to take a ride up to North London to have a close look at the car; not with a view to purchasing it but to take some notes for my B10 restoration. If anyone wants a report on the car (as a potential buyer), then PM me.
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« Reply #7 on: 16 August, 2010, 05:09:33 PM » |
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amazing stuff, can anyone guess the the selling price from the pictures so far.11,000 sterling?- or is that B20 in berkshire a better bet?
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« Reply #8 on: 16 August, 2010, 07:00:20 PM » |
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There certainly seem to be some question marks about this car and its lack of history! One interesting feature is that it has been fitted with a second series 2000cc B20 engine (Two single Webber carbs and 3 rocker cover bolts) so would be 80 bhp as opposed to the original engines 70 bhp. It is a pity it has had underseal sprayed all over the underside, this only leads one to think it is a cover-up job!
As to your question Richard to which would be the safer bet this or Richard Thornes B20. I would have thought that the B21 Saloon could be on the road with a good going over, new brakes and clutch, so for say £3-4,000, then you would have a car worth about £25,000. The B20 would cost between £30-40,000 to restore and you would have a car worth £70-80,000. Obviously the B20 is the better financial bet, but would also take a lot longer to do, and the whole project would take much more time plus financial comitment.
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« Reply #9 on: 23 August, 2010, 07:16:29 PM » |
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It sold for £11,202
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« Reply #10 on: 23 August, 2010, 07:47:24 PM » |
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Good guess Mr Fridd !!!
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« Reply #11 on: 23 August, 2010, 10:51:27 PM » |
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Yes but to who? My money is on Cristo!
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
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« Reply #12 on: 24 August, 2010, 05:48:16 PM » |
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hope to see it sometime.the price is right!
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williamcorke
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« Reply #13 on: 27 August, 2010, 09:37:58 AM » |
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I'd like to know if the auction winner had inspected the car before bidding.
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« Reply #14 on: 28 December, 2010, 06:51:26 PM » |
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Hi Tim you are right the car has made its way to me 3 months after it was on e-bay.
I need some help from anyone who can help.
I have done all the mechanical work on the car bar waiting for a new alternator from Peter Harding and a intermitted starter its running very well.
However the body seemed very fine and not too rusty but I have taken the wings of today to fix hanging front doors but have open Pandora’s box the A posts are very bad.
All the bottom section though very original and un-welded are rotten and there’s a few big holes leaving it very open to how or what was in there.
I have a very skilled man working on the metal work but I need some sort of diagram or pictures to see what the A-frames and bottom sections should look like as there is not enough metal left to use as templates to replicate new parts
All help would be appreciated
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