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Joanna
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« on: 22 January, 2010, 12:04:02 PM »

Hi all,
Looking possibly to buy a lybra estate.  Must be left hand drive and preferably with leather interior.
If anyone knows of one then please let me know.

many thanks
carlos
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« Reply #1 on: 22 January, 2010, 04:24:39 PM »

Bit like Henry Ford "You can have any colour as long as it's black"
so for Lybra " You can have any drive as long as it's left hand" Cheesy

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« Reply #2 on: 22 January, 2010, 08:05:18 PM »

Hello Carlos
It's probaly not exactly on your doorstep but look at Item 310180632332 on French e-bay. 1999 and
fitted with 2.4 JTD motor and on sale at € 4450.Car located about 5 hours drive from Calais/ Tunnel.
Doesn't mention if leather interior.
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« Reply #3 on: 22 January, 2010, 08:15:33 PM »

Another good place to look is the German website http://www.mobile.de/home/index.html?lang=en.  There are plenty of of reasonably priced Lybras on there.  If you bring one in from Germany, it would be worth speaking to Donald (Aberdeen area organiser) as he has imported his last two cars from Germany, so knows the procedures there very well.

If you do import one, you may have a lot of work to sort the headlights as the regulations have been tightened up in recent years.  You will have to get them re-engineered so they dip to the left as no UK specification headlights were made for the Lybra.  This was never done on my Lybra SW as it was imported in 2001 before the VCA tightened everything up.  The previous owner only had to declare the work had been done, whereas now, they require proof that the work has been carried out.
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Joanna
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« Reply #4 on: 23 January, 2010, 12:41:52 AM »

Thanks for the replies, maybe I should have pointed out that I need left hand drive because I am going to use it abroad. I dont really want to import one unless its truly mint, as I will then be exporting it if and when we move from the UK.   I cant buy it abroad and register it where we are going as you are only aloud to take the car you own with you as to not pay import duty.
So ideally would want a UK car.
cheers
carlos
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« Reply #5 on: 23 January, 2010, 09:21:36 AM »

I would have thought that unless Stuart want's to sell his, finding another here is a pretty unlikely scenario Cry
However what about looking at in the exchange and mart at the people who sell LHD vehicles? or query someone like these http://www.transeuropean.co.uk/category.php?make=fullstock

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« Reply #6 on: 23 January, 2010, 11:33:32 AM »

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I would have thought that unless Stuart want's to sell his, finding another here is a pretty unlikely scenario

Unfortunately, I love my Lybra so much, I couldn't bear to part with her.  I have had several offers for her (one person even jumping out of a van at a junction to make me an offer), but in each case I have responded with "not for sale at any price!"

The main problem in sourcing a UK based Lybra is that there are only about three of them (that I know of).  There was one near Manchester, another in or around Bristol and mine.
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Joanna
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« Reply #7 on: 23 January, 2010, 11:52:03 AM »

oh well, not good news then, didnt realise there were onl 3 !  , bit like my ypsilon then  Tongue

Oh well, nxt on the list is either a thema estate, land rover, or subaru.  Shocked

thanks anyway guys
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« Reply #8 on: 24 January, 2010, 04:18:49 PM »

Hello both, can you send me more details mot/tax  pics of inside outside engine etc, where abouts are you. relias@btinternet.com  Thanks Roger
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« Reply #9 on: 24 January, 2010, 04:29:52 PM »

Hello Carlos
I'm very intrigued when you say    "I can't buy it abroad and register it where we are going as you are only allowed to take the car you own with you,as not to pay import duty."
Are we allowed to know where you might be heading ?
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« Reply #10 on: 24 January, 2010, 10:30:54 PM »

Hi Tim
Thinking of Portugal,  I have been told that importing a car there now costs a small fortune, I had a quote on a Portuguese website of 20,000 euros to import the integrale.  The only way is if you move residence, then you are allowed one car per person.
If you know any different then please let me know, I find it hard to believe as well, but I have also been told that the Portuguese get fined by the EU for charging import taxes, but the fine isnt as much as the tax so they carry on Sad
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« Reply #11 on: 26 January, 2010, 08:02:17 PM »

Hello Carlos
Sorry but I can't help with info. on importing cars into Portugal,only France. Perhaps you could contact a couple of companies in the UK who specialise in selling LHD cars e.g. LHD Centre Ltd.  Tel 01256-461173 or Trans-European Carriage Co. Tel. 020 7713 1777.They may know the answer or be able to put you in touch with someone who does. Is there a Lancia Club of Portugal ?
I would be interested to know how you get on.
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Tim
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« Reply #12 on: 26 January, 2010, 09:23:00 PM »

Our ex secretary Dave Baker lives in Portugal and may be able to help, if allowed  Wink,  if anyone has contact details of where Dave is now Huh?
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« Reply #13 on: 26 January, 2010, 10:09:05 PM »

thanks for the info, any help is much appreciated
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« Reply #14 on: 26 January, 2010, 10:25:01 PM »

Ah yes... Portugal.  Well I have just returned from a year in Portugal and cars are very pricey there.  My family are Portuguese and I always wanted to treat my cousin to a 2nd hand Jag XJS (his favourite car), but when we investigated the various taxes he'd have to pay as well as the yearly duty we decided it was better to just flush money down the nearest privvy!

I drove my car there for a year, on UK insurance.  Being EU, your current insurer has to cover you.  There are specialist insurers that cover ex pats out there (or any other EU country) but I was informed by a family broker out there that as I was already covered when I left UK, then they are duty bound to cover you... they just dont shout about it thats all.  So I didn't hurry to sort new insurance and plates out (just as well, because I returned a year later but the original plan was to stay longer).

The Portuguese add VAT to a new car, and then slap a 'car tax'.  Oh, and if you have a 5 litre limo with all the toys, you get stung with luxury duty on top.  Buying an average new car will cost you half as much again as it does in the UK.  Because the 2nd tax isn't called 'some more VAT', you cannot argue that VAT has already been paid on the car you bring from England.  You escape paying portuguese VAT, but they still ask for the 'CAR TAX'.  Second hand cars in Portugal hold their values... because the average Joe cannot afford to buy one new!

The way round it is as follow...  If you have owned the car for more than 3 years and it has been registered at a UK address for that time, you can get your car registered for, I think, about 700 pounds.  I will ask my uncle to reconfirm this and get back to you.  As I didnt end up staying, I didn't pursue it any further.  Older cars pay a pittance in road duty and new cars pay the equivalent to UK prices.  I am unsure whether an old car registered today would fall under the former or latter.

Easiest option... buy a house just inside the Spanish border (or use the address of a friend there) and purchase/ run your newly acquired lybra on spanish plates.  Fill up with petrol there whilst you're at it as it's a sight cheaper there too.

I do not profess to know everything about the subject, but the above is what my investigations threw up when I was gearing up to take both the Barchetta and Fulvia over for good.  I hope that it helps a bit.

Mark

Hi Tim
Thinking of Portugal,  I have been told that importing a car there now costs a small fortune, I had a quote on a Portuguese website of 20,000 euros to import the integrale.  The only way is if you move residence, then you are allowed one car per person.
If you know any different then please let me know, I find it hard to believe as well, but I have also been told that the Portuguese get fined by the EU for charging import taxes, but the fine isnt as much as the tax so they carry on Sad

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