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« on: 31 August, 2009, 11:53:25 AM »

CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT THIS TOOL DOES AND HOW IT WORKS AND A VALUE  Huh?


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« Reply #1 on: 31 August, 2009, 12:21:06 PM »

Hopefully heres the instructions Huh?

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« Reply #2 on: 31 August, 2009, 04:59:23 PM »

It looks like a cutting tool for turning the journals (or taking out scores). Presumably you clamp it around the journal and rotate it with the handle supplied (seems like that is what the instructions say). Value ? Well it suppose it might have value as a curiosity but I cannot imagine it has a value as a practical tool.

Do you know how old it is ?
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« Reply #3 on: 31 August, 2009, 08:37:50 PM »

Hi Neil,i would say it maybe 30s or 40s but only a guess by the victoria 4 figure phone number , i am waiting for Brian AKA Fay to do some homework as we know he likes a challenge. Wink Wink
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« Reply #4 on: 01 September, 2009, 01:17:40 AM »

Hi Neil,i would say it maybe 30s or 40s but only a guess by the victoria 4 figure phone number , i am waiting for Brian AKA Fay to do some homework as we know he likes a challenge. Wink Wink

Not wishing to disappoint Cheesy

Tried looking to see if I could find anything reference the patent number 181559, but no luck.
I then tried looking at "Mansion Motor Company Ltd" and the only reference I could find is  in Flight Global Archives" and is Dated March 27 1919. and is as follows.

" Under agreement with R.W.H.Kane, S.S. Sadgrove, The Mansions Motor Co Ltd & A.C.Hyatt, Exporters,Importers,Shipowners, Carrier, Manufacturer of and Dealers in Aircraft, motor Cars etc, First Directors R.W.H.Kane & C.W.Sadgrove."

I then had a look on Multimap at the Address, 78 Petty France Westminster, and it looks like a lot of it might have been destroyed in WW2 and rebuilt after the war.


My feelings are that this tool was made somewhere around the 1920's going by the above, and the style of the instructions.
As to it's use I would say that Neil is probably right.

finally they are not listed in the British Motor Manufacturers 1894-1960.
Perhaps if someone in London is near the "Metropolitan Archives" they could have a look and see if they have anything on them.


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« Reply #5 on: 01 September, 2009, 08:50:15 AM »

SEE. Wink Who needs 118 118, when we have Brian Cheesy thanks
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« Reply #6 on: 02 September, 2009, 10:17:07 AM »


I love this sort of stuff - but wouldn't be brave enough to try it for real.  Its a step up on the "leather belt and grinding paste" but expect few would begrudge the machine shop their fee. 

If you were trying to sell it the next most obvious places (other than ebay...) would be the VSCC website and PreWarCar.com.  While easy to dismiss as a curiosity, curiosities can sell very well indeed.

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« Reply #7 on: 02 September, 2009, 11:59:34 AM »

So its not a large pencil sharpner then Shocked
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« Reply #8 on: 02 September, 2009, 01:23:02 PM »

This tool is clearly not for the feint hearted! I just so happen to have a book from the early 1920s that might have a reference to such a thing. See front cover below. Sadly it doesn’t, but it does give a guide as to how the “Amateur Mechanic” might undertake the job.

In the chapter “Taking-up and Adjusting Engine Bearings”, it gives the following description for tackling the crankshaft journals:

“Hold the crankshaft in a vice, gripping it by means of the webs. Do not attempt to remedy the worn journals with a strip of emery cloth; this method, although sometimes advocated, cannot possibly be expected to help matters.

Obtain two pieces of wood about 2 ins. square and 18 ins. long. Bolt them together, as shown in Fig. 1, with a piece of cardboard between them. Bore a hole in the centre slightly larger than the crank journals. Take them apart, and glue a piece of emery cloth around the circumference of the hole. This can now be bolted to the journal and worked around it, using a little oil, until all the high places are removed. Tighten the bolts slightly during the process.”

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« Reply #9 on: 02 September, 2009, 03:08:22 PM »

Hi Colin. I think i may send a couple of pics to Lord Monteague( i think thats how you spell it Huh?) to see if they can throw any light on it, it's superbly made, and looks like it has not been used much, if at all.The box itself is great to look at, with tenon joints,and it has a smell of an old engineering shop. The tin in the box still has some cutting oil inside.Watch this space Wink
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« Reply #10 on: 02 September, 2009, 04:37:47 PM »

I think we're getting there Grin


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