Kevinlincs
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« on: 26 January, 2023, 10:22:35 PM » |
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Some may know I recently bought this coupe from the guy I bought my integrale from, it had languished in his garage since 1980 and although reported to have been started up at regular intervals it has siezed. From being stood or maybe taken off the road all those years back because of an issue? Who knows...time will tell.
I did offer this car for sale if anyone fancied a project as it's a low miles. low owner car but I guess nobody wants a tired coupe with a dead motor! Only fools like me seem to buy them...
So with that all said I have decided to make a start and at least get it running and see where that leads. If anyone at any point gets an urge to take it on then that's fine, but for now I'll press on and grow to like it that much that it will become a keeper!
I took the spark plugs out a few weeks ago and poured some parafin down the bores, it's a good cleaning agent and quite slippy so should have been able to free off any sticking pistons. That didn't help any as it still refused to move at all using a socket and 2 foot bar on the crank pulley.
A boroscope down each bore showed they all looked in better shape than I feared, no signs of rust and all nice and shiny.
Rather than force it anymore I've decided to remove the engine and put it on the engine stand so I can assess it better, take the sump off to inspect the crank etc. Could easily be the camshaft that's siezed, something in the valves, anything really so forcing it to move will only cause more damage.
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Kevinlincs
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« Reply #1 on: 26 January, 2023, 10:35:24 PM » |
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Most parts removed ready for the engine to be lifted out on Saturday, I'll push it over my inspection pit to detach the prop shaft and the exhausts along with the starter and generator wiring.
Once out I'll make a frame to attach it to the engine stand to allow access to the sump, flywheel and heads. Probably end up being a full strip down, rarely ends up being less involved than expected.
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Richard Fridd
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« Reply #2 on: 27 January, 2023, 06:57:25 AM » |
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Almost forgot to mark the propshaft myself. Useful for reassembly, with balance in mind.
Richard
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« Reply #3 on: 27 January, 2023, 09:03:37 AM » |
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Yes, workshop manual mentions marking prop position Richard so will do that.
Doesn't mention how the connection comes apart though, guess it will be obvious once I'm, underneath?
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« Reply #4 on: 27 January, 2023, 09:15:15 AM » |
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Three nuts/ bolts/splitpins. My engine was happier being lifted slightly 'rear end first' to avoid fouling near to the front mounting brackets.
Glad you are getting started!
Richard
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« Reply #5 on: 27 January, 2023, 10:18:27 AM » |
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Really looking forward to this thread. I was sorely tempted when you offered the car for sale Kevin, but have too many projects already.
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« Reply #6 on: 27 January, 2023, 01:23:00 PM » |
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Good luck. I seem to remember having fun and games with this job. Because the clutch is at the back the prop shaft is locked to the engine which means if the engine is seized you can't turn the prop to get at all the nuts on the coupling. As my car was a scrapper I ended up cutting an access hole in the top of the transmission tunnel.
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« Reply #7 on: 27 January, 2023, 05:25:59 PM » |
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I'm looking forward to following this thread! Just embarked on a Beta restoration myself!
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« Reply #8 on: 27 January, 2023, 08:45:18 PM » |
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Exiting news! It will be worth it when that fantastic 6 wakes up again!
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« Reply #9 on: 27 January, 2023, 10:51:41 PM » |
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Thanks for the encouragement guys, although I did fear I'd have to rotate to get at all the bolts, that could be fun!
I'll let you know how I get on...
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« Reply #10 on: 28 January, 2023, 06:54:22 AM » |
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Would 'saw wire' be of use?
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« Reply #11 on: 28 January, 2023, 11:31:03 PM » |
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Well, it's out!
A bit more of a faff than I thought it may be, but once I remembered the comment about raising the rear (thanks Richard) it came out.
Pretty tight for clearance despite looking like plenty of space, the cooling fins on the front of the sump getting caught on the engine mounting bracket makes the job worse.
I first thought that raising the front out first so it could raise out like a submarine didn't work. Then I remembered about the raising the rear comment. Great work guys, those comments help!
Ran out of time to make a frame to mount it to the engine stand, I'll do that next time if I don't get the GTV parts back.
Looking forward to seeing what's gone on. Every water gallery is furred up so it is probably a few years since it ran. But whatever has happened, it's locked solid so far...
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« Reply #12 on: 29 January, 2023, 10:01:07 AM » |
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Go Kev! Go!
Clarkey
ps that engine looks mighty complicated...
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« Reply #13 on: 29 January, 2023, 01:05:50 PM » |
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Hi Kevin
I would love to help out in stripping and re-building that engine if you would like another pair of hands. I guess you are in Lincs??
Cheers
Simon
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« Reply #14 on: 29 January, 2023, 04:53:56 PM » |
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Yes, NE Lincs not far from Cadwell Park/Louth area.
I'll let you know should I need it.
Quite looking forward to having a look at it myself.
Some engineering looks really interesting in the valve gear.
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