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Beckerman67
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« on: 13 April, 2022, 11:39:23 AM »

https://www.avantgardeclassics.co.uk/cars/lancia-fulvia-hf-1600-lusso/

Thoughts anyone - yes that is a 6!

No connection to seller!
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Michael Tryton
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« Reply #1 on: 13 April, 2022, 12:13:56 PM »

Well, this is quite a well-known car in the club and you're sure to find any classic car trader will always add a significant extra premium onto whatever you'd otherwise expect to pay for an equivalent car from a private seller. And I suspect they've little choice!

Firstly, of course, because any dealer has to be able to run their business at sufficient profit to make an actual human living. (They're not a vehicle-preservation charity, after all!)

And also because said traders are commercial businesses which mainly sell-on to private persons who in law buy 'as consumer' - i.e. with the benefit of all those protections & entitlements which flow from their specific legal status.

Meaning any dealer has to cater for whatever it might come to cost them to meet statutory obligations towards a consumer who buys the car off them and then discovers a fault. Which, with any old car, is not only more than likely but could also - and very easily - incur all sorts of unexpected costs in whatever parts & labour are needed to repair/satisfy this strict statutory duty on the dealer. Although there've been a few (less reputable) car-dealers I've known of who went 'bust' specifically to avoid them....

As a business, a dealer's also got all the usual costs of running a business - including space or premises (whether purchased outright or rented) plus business rates; insurance; collection/delivery costs for their stock (incl. fuel & specialist vehicles or else hiring-in transport services) plus those other cashflow stresses which go with having stock laid-up unsold. Not to mention the considerable expense of advertising that stock, both in glossy magazines & online.

All of which considerations - and especially those re consumer-protection in law - are probably what prompt many people only to consider buying their next classic car off a dealer. As well as bump up dealers' prices. Considerations which instead drive me, speaking personally, to do the very opposite and make it my policy only ever to buy cars privately - where that classic principle of 'Buying Nice Cars Off Nice People' has never failed me once.
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Beckerman67
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« Reply #2 on: 13 April, 2022, 12:55:59 PM »

 There is another consideration to take into account - Market Value.
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Michael Tryton
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« Reply #3 on: 13 April, 2022, 12:56:35 PM »

Yes, indeedy, I agree - although 'market value' is a different concept in the two types of settings: commercial & private.

And on which point, have you noticed Integrale prices recently?
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Jai Sharma
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« Reply #4 on: 13 April, 2022, 07:40:49 PM »

It looks like a lot to me but I guess it just needs a willing buyer and seller to determine the right price. The car does look very nice though I don’t recall seeing the line of spot welds in a line behind the bonnet stay on other cars, but have not checked.
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« Reply #5 on: 14 April, 2022, 10:30:17 PM »

It would appear someone liked it enough to make an offer the dealer is happy with - it now says 'on hold' rather than having a price.
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« Reply #6 on: 15 April, 2022, 10:41:58 PM »

It would appear someone liked it enough to make an offer the dealer is happy with - it now says 'on hold' rather than having a price.

……which now makes this thread somewhat confusing as the price with a ‘6’ in it remains unclear. Was it  £6.00 or £6 million? 💁
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Beckerman67
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« Reply #7 on: 16 April, 2022, 04:29:48 AM »

 £64K  Roll Eyes All the right numbers, but not necessarily in the right order?
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Richard Fridd
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« Reply #8 on: 18 April, 2022, 11:45:49 AM »

Out of interest, how much is a donor car if this type, plus a pro rebuild to this standard? I know this doesn't equate to resale price, but might offer some justification to make the buyer even happier!
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Charles Frodsham
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« Reply #9 on: 18 April, 2022, 08:05:43 PM »

How about this one!

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1444547
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Wangler
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« Reply #10 on: 18 April, 2022, 08:58:26 PM »

Wow, what a stunning looking car.

The only problem I can see is that it is probably as good as it can ever be, so the buyer will have to accept that it will have to be looked after incredibly carefully, which may impact on the enjoyment of using it.

Personally I think that the enjoyment of owning a classic car is a mixture of driving it the way it was designed to be, which isn’t without risk, and maintaining it nicely.
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Beckerman67
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« Reply #11 on: 20 April, 2022, 07:17:17 AM »

 So, the first one which was assumed sold or 'on hold', is now back on the market at £64950 (original price).
 Now that two of arguably the best examples of a RHD Fulvia S2 1.6 HF Lusso are both for sale at the same price, the choice is yours.
 I think I'd have the Rosso York (ex Lancia Club President's) example with its £50K restoration behind it. One can but dream.🤗
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AndyT72
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« Reply #12 on: 21 April, 2022, 08:45:50 AM »

The Rosso York one is mine  Smiley

It really is as nice as it looks, and drives just as well.

The age old problem of storage, and the fact that i've really got too many (that's what my wife says), means I'm looking for a new custodian.

A decision I'm sure I'll regret... Undecided
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Andy Tiley
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