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Author Topic: Flavia, Fulvia, Beta & Monte - Do you know Jack ....?  (Read 6240 times)
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« on: 20 May, 2008, 07:33:59 AM »

I'm having some new scissor jack ratchet handle gears made from Roc Tuf.

The originals crack in half because they have a design flaw; they have 13 (lucky) teeth on the periphery, and no matter how hard one tries, one cannot orientate them any differently - one edge of the hex drive cutout always coincides with the minor diameter of one of the teeth.  So the only alternative is to make them out of strong material.

It would seem that one size could fit all the jack handles for Flavia, Fulvia, Beta & Monte by simply machining the outter diameter to suit the handles.

Of course economies of scale is the million dollar question, so how many members might be interested?
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« Reply #1 on: 20 May, 2008, 02:43:24 PM »

Hi Guy,
I'd be interested Cheesy

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« Reply #2 on: 20 May, 2008, 04:36:28 PM »

Shame, I just bought an electric jack from Maplin

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« Reply #3 on: 20 May, 2008, 10:09:17 PM »

Should have guessed you would be at a holiday camp, is the bar open?
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« Reply #4 on: 21 May, 2008, 11:15:29 AM »

Okay chaps, this isn't about one-upmanship.  Roll Eyes

But if you don't know your Flavia, Fulvia, Beta and Monte scissors jacks from their orphan cousins Bottle Jack (an alcoholic who bends his elbow too often), Trolley Jack (with his own hot wheels), and Pedestal Jack (who thinks he's above everyone), then you don't know Jack ....  Wink

The real McCoy Jack is worth a few points at any concours, and a nice to have for those of us who are just wickedly pedantic. 

The gears will cost only £15 each (excl. shipping & duty) if we can just get 10 of us to order one each.
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« Reply #5 on: 25 June, 2008, 09:17:53 PM »

Put me down for one, as the one for my Fulvia currently looks like the one in your photograph that's in component form.

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« Reply #6 on: 29 June, 2008, 07:02:58 AM »

Thanks John,

I'm expecting the prototype any day now.

Between me (I need 4), Brian Hilton and yourself we may just have enough interest.  Roll Eyes

Kindest regards,
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« Reply #7 on: 10 January, 2009, 07:45:07 PM »

Hello all maybe it's too late but I'd be very intrested as mine has given up the ghost as well, I can be contacted on 023 92463880. Thanks
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« Reply #8 on: 13 January, 2009, 01:27:07 PM »

Hi Andrew,

It's never too late.  Any more takers please?   Cheesy

After the last round, I only had two made for myself, but could probably stretch to make a new order of 5.

At the moment the prototypes are still disassembled, so later I'll post some photos of just what the process of repairing the jack handles entails.

Kindest regards,
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« Reply #9 on: 15 January, 2009, 02:00:08 PM »

Here's what it entails:

Grinding / filing off the rivet heads of the handle.

Splitting the two halves.

Removing the pieces of the old gear.

Machining the new ratchet gear's diameter and width to suit your jack's handle - I've made a one size fits all 'blank'.

Riveting the two halves back together.   Grin
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« Reply #10 on: 28 November, 2009, 08:04:44 AM »

Whew!

Talk about Rome wasn't sacked in a day...

The gears are finally ready  Roll Eyes, and I will be bringing them with me to the UK in December when I will be posting them to the interested parties and perhaps anyone else who may now have an interest - first come, first served.

Kiindest regards,
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« Reply #11 on: 28 November, 2009, 08:20:00 AM »

Thamks Guy Cool

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« Reply #12 on: 31 December, 2010, 10:23:39 AM »

No matter that only Andrew and Brian took up my offer, but I'm wondering how they fared?

Finally after many moons, this precious and priceless tool forged with love in the fires of Mount Doom was completed as a Christmas gift from the ever-faithful hobbit Guido to my Lady Carol for her "Tigger"!

(BTW I managed to order a new Monte-style jack handle through Fiat for our son Matthew too.)
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Appia Coupé S3 (Rosina), Appia Berlina S3 (La Giaconda), Fulvia 1.3S 5 spd coupé (Tigger, belongs to Carol), Beta Spyder S2 (Vivaldi), Montecarlo Spyder S2, HPE VX (Pugsly) etc
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« Reply #13 on: 31 December, 2010, 10:32:18 AM »

No matter that only Andrew and Brian took up my offer, but I'm wondering how they fared?

Finally after many moons, this precious and priceless tool forged with love in the fires of Mount Doom was completed as a Christmas gift from the ever-faithful hobbit Guido to my Lady Carol for her "Tigger"!

(BTW I managed to order a new Monte-style jack handle through Fiat for our son Matthew too.)

Guy,
Bit different to buying the lady of the house new saucepans for Christmas!

Looks great hope Carol and "Tigger" appreciate the effort involved!
Haven't done anything with mine as my Jack handle rachet is ok, so this has joined the ranks of the "Just in Case" parts squirreled away. Roll Eyes

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« Reply #14 on: 04 January, 2011, 05:11:42 PM »

Oops, slightly embarrassed about this. Events conspired to make my then-Fulvia (YKR 567J, as per my former forum name) and me part company so I faded out of the scene. However I now have another, rather better Fulvia which is complete and proper in every respect apart from, yes, lacking the correct jacking handle. So a new ratchet wouldn't really do it. I need the rest of the handle too...

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