GerardJPC
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« Reply #15 on: 24 May, 2021, 03:42:29 AM » |
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Any price for an old car ought to be negotiable, but the trick is, of course, to pitch the opening price at a realistic level. That is hard to do with a car as rare as this, as there isn't really a going rate. I was tempted recently by a very rare Mazda 1800 saloon car from the early seventies that was designed by Giugiaro (an unused Alfa design). There are maybe two of those cars in the UK - very pretty but mechanically perhaps a bit dull. The dealer selling that rarity has been gradually increasing the price from 10K to 17K, while nobody buys the car. I reckon that the price for that car might be 8k, but who knows? I think that the 1500 Delta on eBay might be a 5K car, but again it's hard to tell.
The prices in Italy for Delta 1300s and 1500s are pitched all over the place, from around 1500 Euros to well over 10000 Euros. A Delta dealer near Perugia has a 1600 GT up for under 5000 Euros, but it has been done up a bit to look a bit too much like an Integrale.
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1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe 1800 1981 Lotus Eclat S2 1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza 1982 Yamaha YB 100 1983 Land Rover SIII 88 2005 Alfa Romeo 156 Crosswagon Q4 2009 Jaguar XK 5.0
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frankxhv773t
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« Reply #16 on: 24 May, 2021, 09:58:23 AM » |
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Whether the price of a car is negotiable is entirely the prerogative of the vendor. The degree of negotiability depends on how badly they want to sell the car. The white Y10 is a case in point where most people thought even the best Y10 wasn't worth much more that £1,000, the vendor told me he had turned down offers over £2,000 and, although he was a dealer, he rather liked it and wasn't in any hurry to sell so was firm on just under £4,000.
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Kevinlincs
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« Reply #17 on: 24 May, 2021, 12:37:58 PM » |
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For what it's worth I value them at what it would cost to do one up to that standard, far more than what that is at, if you could find a RHD one to start with. Cars like the 147 are still cheap as they haven't thinned out yet, in 10 or 15 years they'll be in demand, maybe. Like the Alfa 145 has finally caught on. Suds and Sprints are catching up now, 10 years ago a good one was £3k but now some are in the teens. Still rather have that Delta and 20k in my pocket than a Mk2 escort!!
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SanRemo78
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« Reply #18 on: 24 May, 2021, 03:43:56 PM » |
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The 145 Cloverleaf was one of two cars that I wish I'd kept. It was rear ended a month after I sold it. Having had it for 13 years from new it was by far the most reliable car I'll ever own. Two breakdowns (clutch slave cylinder & an alarm-10 minutes disconnected sorted that!). It did 165k in that time, still had the original clutch and shocks. Engine & box had never been opened. Two batteries from new, one replacement exhaust and a few sets of discs/pads/lower arms. Looked great, drove brilliantly! I miss that car. And the first HPE.
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« Reply #19 on: 26 May, 2021, 03:21:20 PM » |
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It's not my car by the way, I just posted it on FB for interest. I was surprised at the price as I think most Lancisti would be, but then again, it's rare, and as has been said, look at the equivalent Ford prices! Hope it goes to a good home. Paul
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« Reply #20 on: 26 May, 2021, 03:41:31 PM » |
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I was surprised at the price as I think most Lancisti would be, but then again, it's rare,
Paul
Rare does not mean valuable - 1600ie Symbol Prisma can be had for a lot less in immaculate condition....
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart? Lancias: 1955 Aurelia B12 1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR 1972 Fulvia 1600HF 1972 Fulvia Sport 1600 1983 HPE VX 1988 Delta 1.6GTie 1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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frankxhv773t
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« Reply #21 on: 27 May, 2021, 12:16:52 PM » |
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Indeed, sometimes things are rare precisely because people don't consider them worth saving.
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GerardJPC
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« Reply #22 on: 28 May, 2021, 06:39:28 AM » |
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1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe 1800 1981 Lotus Eclat S2 1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza 1982 Yamaha YB 100 1983 Land Rover SIII 88 2005 Alfa Romeo 156 Crosswagon Q4 2009 Jaguar XK 5.0
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« Reply #23 on: 28 May, 2021, 11:39:02 AM » |
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The all white colour scheme was never my taste, but it looks a nice car none the less. Unfortunately, I think it will always been seen as a 'fake' evo. But if you can get past that then a big saving on the real thing.
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GerardJPC
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« Reply #24 on: 28 May, 2021, 03:35:31 PM » |
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Take the naff spoiler off, and then you have a car that is right hand drive, has a Lampredi, has a turbo, has posh seats, has posh wheels, is alleged not to be rusty, and is probably a lot of fun to drive. I am not bidding, but if I did, I might bid 10 to 12 ish. But, Hell, maybe 15 isn't a daft price. I dunno!
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1973 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe 1800 1981 Lotus Eclat S2 1982 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza 1982 Yamaha YB 100 1983 Land Rover SIII 88 2005 Alfa Romeo 156 Crosswagon Q4 2009 Jaguar XK 5.0
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« Reply #25 on: 28 May, 2021, 07:22:25 PM » |
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I quite fancy the 1500 on EBay. If I had space, I'd seriously consider it. My first car was a 1500 Delta (DFO 139W), but it wasn't an LX - what are the differences? I think nostalgia as well as rarity dictates the pricing for these kinds of cars. They're worth whatever someone will pay. I'd pay way over the odds for my old one.
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1969 S1 Fulvia 1.6 1971 Ex-works Fulvia 1.6 1975 Gr4 Stratos HF 1982 Beta Spyder 1982 037 Rally
Recently passed: 1986 Delta S4 Long since passed: Delta HF Turbo ie, Delta HF Turbo (carb), Delta 1500.
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