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Keithver
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« Reply #30 on: 16 January, 2021, 09:56:31 AM »

The beginning of a new year! lets hope that we'll get this virus under control soon so that we can return to life as we knew it.
I'm putting my front suspension together and am not sure where all the bits and pieces go on the upper control arm bolt. I know, I should have taken more photos Undecided. I'm struggling to work it out from the parts book. Is the order in the photo correct. Thats how I put it together on the right hand side. There seems to be a lot of forward and backwards play on the arm. I'd guess 3 or 4mm in the alu. support frame. I have replaced the rubbers with new


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« Reply #31 on: 16 January, 2021, 10:12:50 AM »

From your photo it looks like you are missing the inner nylon bush that is inside the rubber silent block??

I do not know of a source to one for one replacement - only a modification kit which is different  https://www.pieces-fulvia.com/kit-silent-blocks-upper-arm-lancia-fulvia-serie-1.htm

BTW the nylon disk should be more accurately shaped...


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1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
1988 Delta 1.6GTi
1998 Zeta
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« Reply #32 on: 16 January, 2021, 10:14:22 AM »

Update

Is your car tubular or pressed upper wishbones. If pressed ignore my post!!
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
1988 Delta 1.6GTi
1998 Zeta
Keithver
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« Reply #33 on: 16 January, 2021, 10:36:44 AM »

Thanks Tim. The arms are the tubular type. The first washer (thin one) at the silent block is a replacement nylon washer. The Pieces modification could be a possibility. The bushes on my lower control arms are the same as those
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« Reply #34 on: 16 January, 2021, 11:10:59 AM »

I am confused, I thought S2/S3 cars had 'metalastic. bushes, which I fitted to my S1 in place of the rubber only originals..
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« Reply #35 on: 16 January, 2021, 11:31:46 AM »

So S1 upper is a bar with castellated nut at one end and fixed hex with grease nipple at the other (forward facing). The bar rotates on steel tubes In a 2 part (nylon tube and rubber tube) bush at either end. There is a spacer tube in the middle which allows the greasing to get to the back. There is a nylon washer, a dished washer and a strong washer. The whole assembly is done up tight. Obviously poorly maintained and high mileage cars will wear these parts out which is why there is an alternative with basic silent blocks as original parts seem no longer available.
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Flavia Vignale iniezione
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 1600 Fulvia Sport
1979 2500 Gamma Coupe
1988 Delta 1.6GTi
1998 Zeta
Keithver
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« Reply #36 on: 16 January, 2021, 12:09:01 PM »

In putting the factory cars together, it seems as if they used up all the remaining stock of S1 parts on older S2 cars and then changed to the correct S2 pieces. I have one of those cars. There are other S1 parts on mine as well
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Keithver
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« Reply #37 on: 16 January, 2021, 04:05:22 PM »

Tim, a thousand thanks. Your mention of the nylon inner silent block has saved the day. I make a point of not throwing old spares away until I have that section correctly re-assembled and today that paid off. I went and inspected the old rubber silent blocs and discovered those pesky nylon silent blocs lurking inside. I removed them, cleaned them up and they all look fine. I have put them in and tightened everything up on the RHS. What a difference. No slop at all. Tight as anything. Thanks again guys for your help. The photo shows all the parts in sequence on the bolt


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« Reply #38 on: 31 January, 2021, 10:09:49 AM »

I'm putting the sub-frame back together and wondering how important the torque settings are.
I've been puzzling over pages 11/0010 and 11/0020 in the tech. manual trying to work out which descriptions apply to which fixings. I think I have most of them, but ask for help on the others please.
I have marked up the frame drawing with how I understood the descriptions. Have I got them correct.

Item 5 - is that the single bolt attaching the rear of the 'engine-center-support' to the front cross-member between the alu. uprights?
Item 6 - is that the single bolt attaching the front of the 'gearbox-center-support' to the front cross-member between the alu. uprights?
Item 8 - fixes the 2 steel cross-members to the alu.uprights
Item 9 - attaches the steel leaf-spring housing to the top of the alu. uprights
Item 11 - Is this the engine mount plate to engine. The plate that sits on top of the engine silent-blocks
Item 12 - the 2 bolts that fix the tops of the alu. uprights to the body in the engine bay



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