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Author Topic: Delta HF Turbo with a difference  (Read 741 times)
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mikeC
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« on: 04 June, 2020, 10:31:19 AM »

H&H online auction on 24th June:

https://www.handh.co.uk/auction/lot/-1987-Lancia-Delta-HF-Turbo-Cabriolet/?lot=49951&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=481&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=1&g=1

I used to own a similar car, but only a base 1.3, which I much regret selling; D886 WPN where are you?
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« Reply #1 on: 04 June, 2020, 06:26:32 PM »

H&H online auction on 24th June:

https://www.handh.co.uk/auction/lot/-1987-Lancia-Delta-HF-Turbo-Cabriolet/?lot=49951&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=481&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=1&g=1

I used to own a similar car, but only a base 1.3, which I much regret selling; D886 WPN where are you?
Mike, was that the same one as Steve Drove
Brian
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« Reply #2 on: 04 June, 2020, 08:38:56 PM »

Mike,

Here's a photo of yours at the 1996 GNW in Newby Bridge Cumbria. Was it yours then?
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« Reply #3 on: 05 June, 2020, 08:03:11 AM »

Yes, Brian, I sold it to my brother and he ran it for a few years before selling it on. I have never attended the GNW, and I think I probably sold it to Stephen around 1995-96, so he presumably attended that event early in his ownership. The DVLA website shows it last taxed in 2001, so it's probably no longer with us.
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1953 Lancia Appia Series 1
1931 Austin Seven deluxe saloon
1914 Saxon Model A roadster


(previously owned Lancias: 1958 Appia Pininfarina coupe, 1987 Delta LX, 1986 Delta cabriolet, 1991 Dedra 1.8, 1993 Dedra 1.6)
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« Reply #4 on: 05 June, 2020, 12:16:08 PM »

Yes, Brian, I sold it to my brother and he ran it for a few years before selling it on. I have never attended the GNW, and I think I probably sold it to Stephen around 1995-96, so he presumably attended that event early in his ownership. The DVLA website shows it last taxed in 2001, so it's probably no longer with us.
Hi Mike,
I was going to the GNW for the first time this year Roll Eyes
I took photos of it while at the Bristol Group monthly meeting at Tormarton in the late 1990's , but I didn't realise it was a turbo.
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« Reply #5 on: 05 June, 2020, 03:49:55 PM »

No it wasn't, Brian; mine was a plain vanilla base 1.3!
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1931 Austin Seven deluxe saloon
1914 Saxon Model A roadster


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« Reply #6 on: 06 June, 2020, 12:08:53 AM »

No it wasn't, Brian; mine was a plain vanilla base 1.3!
Sorry Mike,
That's what I thought, got confused (not hard these days!) with the header above.
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« Reply #7 on: 06 June, 2020, 11:28:41 AM »

Here is the bit about the Prisma  conversion in the news sheet back in November 1989.
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« Reply #8 on: 06 June, 2020, 12:16:40 PM »

That's interesting, Frank. I was unable to ascertain who did the conversion when I owned my car, the nearest I got was a suggestion that thy were done by the same company that converted the contemporary Skodas. I thought the reference in the current advert to the conversion being by H R Owen seemed a bit unlikely.

A conversion commissioned by Mount View Motors perhaps explains how it came to be in north Nottinghamshire five years later, although the registration number is a Brighton number!
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1931 Austin Seven deluxe saloon
1914 Saxon Model A roadster


(previously owned Lancias: 1958 Appia Pininfarina coupe, 1987 Delta LX, 1986 Delta cabriolet, 1991 Dedra 1.8, 1993 Dedra 1.6)
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« Reply #9 on: 06 June, 2020, 06:53:26 PM »

They may possibly have done conversions on low mileage used cars. I know Crayford Engineering did this with estate car conversions because my father had a Mercedes estate built by them in the early seventies. In the case of Crayford I gather it saved on purchase tax to convert a used car. I'm not sure the same rational would apply once VAT was introduced but I suppose it might have made the finished item a bit more affordable.
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« Reply #10 on: 26 June, 2020, 11:54:10 AM »

Sold for 4,500 plus auction fees.
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1953 Lancia Appia Series 1
1931 Austin Seven deluxe saloon
1914 Saxon Model A roadster


(previously owned Lancias: 1958 Appia Pininfarina coupe, 1987 Delta LX, 1986 Delta cabriolet, 1991 Dedra 1.8, 1993 Dedra 1.6)
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« Reply #11 on: 26 June, 2020, 08:31:02 PM »

Here is the bit about the Prisma  conversion in the news sheet back in November 1989.

That's interesting, Mountview was my local Lancia dealership, my integrale came from there.
I have friends in Horncastle, one knows the guy that was a mechanic there at that time, I'll see if he remembers anything of it..
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« Reply #12 on: 29 June, 2020, 03:51:00 PM »

Hi All
I've been contacted by the owner of this car who is keen to know any more about it - anyone with any more information feel free to add ...
For the record, they've contacted HR Owen but this is to far back for them to know anything.
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« Reply #13 on: 29 June, 2020, 04:35:09 PM »

https://www.aronline.co.uk/facts-and-figures/unsung-heros/unsung-heroes-skoda-rapid-coupe-cabriolet/

This says Ludgate of Tonbridge did the Skoda conversions and it would seem too much of a coincidence for that not to be the LDD referred to in the old news sheet article. There is also a Roger Ludgate on the net who is an 80 year old car restorer in Tonbridge who might be connected. ( http://www.checkcompany.co.uk/director/6152296/MR-ROGER-LUDGATE )
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« Reply #14 on: 30 June, 2020, 09:14:31 PM »

OK, I've heard back from my friend Ben, who knows one of the main mechanics from Mountview at that time, Chris, and indeed he knows a lot about them.
Message I got back from my friend Ben was "yes Chris knows a lot about them, what do you want to know"
Well obviously I am interested to hear anything about these cars if only to satisfy my own curiosity as that was less than 15miles from my door and I knew nothing of them. But more so any information for the new owner would be priceless.
I hope to get more information from Chris direct or maybe he will find time to post on here himself as I'm sure more would be keen to know about it.
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