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Author Topic: Competition Appia Silverstone Auctions  (Read 923 times)
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« on: 17 February, 2020, 10:49:27 AM »

I see Silverstone Auction didn’t pick up that this Appia had a Fiat/Lancia twin cam transplant, according to the info it has a ACI cert Huh?

https://silverstoneauctions.com/events/2020-auctions/race-retro-classic-competition-car-sale-2020/race-retro-classic-competition-car-sale-2020/competition-cars-friday-21st-february-2020/1954-lancia-appia-series-1
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« Reply #1 on: 17 February, 2020, 12:00:20 PM »

The second line of the auction link acknowledges that it now has a fiat twin cam fitted but there is no indication when this happened. Would it not be reasonable to assume that the ACI certification predates this modification? It does however strike me as a curious modification to make to a car with such significant history.
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« Reply #2 on: 17 February, 2020, 05:51:14 PM »

Also, why try to sell it in the UK? The Italian market is much more buoyant when it comes to Appia prices.
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1953 Lancia Appia Series 1
1931 Austin Seven deluxe saloon
1914 Saxon Model A roadster


(previously owned Lancias: 1958 Appia Pininfarina coupe, 1987 Delta LX, 1986 Delta cabriolet, 1991 Dedra 1.8, 1993 Dedra 1.6)
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« Reply #3 on: 17 February, 2020, 06:05:44 PM »

I wonder if it can be accepted to an event like the mille miglia with such a modern power plant.  That aside it must be hughe fun!
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« Reply #4 on: 17 February, 2020, 09:01:34 PM »

No doubt a road rocket and great fun but I suspect the price is a bit hopeful. I should think fitting the Fiat engine has devalued it.

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« Reply #5 on: 18 February, 2020, 08:38:37 AM »

As my interest is only really in one or two specific Lancia models, I often don't religiously read every post on this Forum due to time pressures.
However I am on my own this week and its raining today so I caught up on this thread.

Francesco Scianna as mentioned in the recent history of this Appia is well known in the old car world in NE Italy primarily for his old car paintings which are mostly in a particular style. A poor photograph of one I have in the UK is attached.
He introduced himself to Jacky last summer having flagged her down locally when she was in the Fulvia GTE and told her he was a Lancia aficionado ( she didn't recognise his name so she had no prior knowledge of him).

I first came across him some years ago when I was driving our Proteus C type Jaguar replica locally  - I was told by 2 Italian locals about a Francesco Scianna  who apparently owned an original C type and who lived locally. There were only 52 C types built I recall and each individual car's history to date is fully recorded and in the public domain.

Small world and I wonder if it were he who had the  twin cam fitted, spoiling this lovely car in my opinion?
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« Reply #6 on: 18 February, 2020, 09:20:04 AM »

The Fiat engine must be twice as heavy as the original Appia; I wonder what they have done to the front suspension?
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1953 Lancia Appia Series 1
1931 Austin Seven deluxe saloon
1914 Saxon Model A roadster


(previously owned Lancias: 1958 Appia Pininfarina coupe, 1987 Delta LX, 1986 Delta cabriolet, 1991 Dedra 1.8, 1993 Dedra 1.6)
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« Reply #7 on: 22 February, 2020, 03:01:34 PM »

I note it made £55,000

Also 1972 Lancia Fulvia 1600 HF Rally Car made £34,875
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« Reply #8 on: 22 February, 2020, 04:51:39 PM »

The 'results' pages for Fridays auction Lots state that the Fulvia was sold for £34,875 but the Appia page says 'buy for £55,000'.
I don't think that means it was sold for £55k...…..and I would be amazed if it had.
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« Reply #9 on: 22 February, 2020, 09:39:37 PM »

I think £55,000 is the asking price for the unsold car - as we said optimistic.
Clearly we all missed a trick by not buying Escort RS 1600's to stack in our sheds - Lot 209 £51750.

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« Reply #10 on: 22 February, 2020, 11:31:21 PM »


Perhaps its £10K for the car, £45K for the history / prospect of eligibility.

I'm reminded of James Martin's documentary on his Mille Miglia entry.  It didn't endear me to him, the car, or event. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99PAic-t9cQ

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« Reply #11 on: 24 February, 2020, 01:28:57 PM »

I remembered that, he brought a Maserati, then spent an absolute fortune making it ‘race ready’ for a road event. Didn’t impress me either  Grin
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