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« on: 19 January, 2020, 08:46:33 PM »

I've been googling, and this was new to me.

https://petrolicious.com/articles/still-rare-still-different-the-lancia-flavia-sport-is-a-zagato-oddball

The header photo captures the "light pods" well.  Few photos pick it up.  "Like a Lamborghini 350 GT".  A Lotus 11 also has a hint of similiar.



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« Reply #1 on: 19 January, 2020, 09:54:40 PM »

As much as the panoramic rear side windows are fascinating, they also break up the line of the car. If they were at the same height as the front windows, one could envision this car as a series of shapes and volumes that inter-relate. As it is now, the design seems a bit fractured, with unique solutions everywhere and not enough basis for them to be tied together. One persons opinion.
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« Reply #2 on: 20 January, 2020, 11:52:14 PM »


I don't think there's any argument that they look like two different cars stuck together...  As for "what were they thinking" it might have been a band of glass that goes up and over and all the way across the roof to meet the window the other side.

They are interesting to look at, in a good way as well as being "interesting" and much nicer in the metal than photos.  My personal taste: I much prefer with bumpers on to off.

This is the "what might have been":

https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/beauty-lancia-sport-zagato-prototipo-lies-within

There was always the PF or Vignale.  I've just finished the new Fulvia/Flavia book and was reminded that the Zagato was cheaper than the others.  That might have been demand and supply, and "rare for good reason" might also be applied Smiley   Quality of build, paint, corrosion, strength, and I'm sure "niggles" make them the worst of the lot.  Colin always says something along the lines of "they were built to make a statement for a year or so, nobody expected any to still be about 60 years on".





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« Reply #3 on: 21 January, 2020, 12:05:12 AM »


http://fabwheelsdigest.blogspot.com/2013/04/1964-lancia-flavia-sport-corsa-zagato.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_1qlfwkt1g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw_GH5E8n2c



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« Reply #4 on: 21 January, 2020, 12:14:14 AM »


Car 182 had the "normal" windows. 

https://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/LANCIA%201964.html



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« Reply #5 on: 30 January, 2020, 11:03:46 PM »

Chaps,

I agree with David that the red Coupe numbered 184 in the photos that you listed does look fantastic.

Over the last 38 years, I have along with many of you have owned 815 Coupes, 815 Convertibles, 819 Saloons, 820 Sedans, 820 Coupes and others, However, there is a weird thing about Flavia Sports that the more you look at them, the more they become desirable, and I`m sure Colin Clamp among others would agree.

I guess that is what makes Zagato cars so interesting.

Bob
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« Reply #6 on: 02 February, 2020, 01:00:24 PM »


Is there a history anywhere of those "prototype" racers?

My tip for anyone near a Flavia Sport is cross the road, look the other way, don't let it draw you in !!!!
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« Reply #7 on: 03 February, 2020, 05:50:47 PM »

Here's a peek at what's under the bonnet of the Squadra Course.


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« Reply #8 on: 05 February, 2020, 06:54:52 PM »


Is there a history anywhere of those "prototype" racers?

My tip for anyone near a Flavia Sport is cross the road, look the other way, don't let it draw you in !!!!


My information is that there were 2 prototypes built for the 1964 Targa Florio. #182 was a 2l (!) prototype which failed to finish. #184  was a 1.8l prototype (what does the article say about that?) and also failed. It too disappeared only to "reappear" at the Monte Carlo auction in 2012 (with no documentation). #182 failed on the 4th lap with engine failure. According to my information it was built on a Fulvia chassis! #184 started with a radiator grill but it was removed. It also had a bad shunt in the RHS A post and back. I dont think it raced in those Ferrari Campy wheels in the article.

Another 2l prototype registered as TO 654423 was entered in the 1964 Tour de Corse. It failed to finish.

Probably the #182 car now was registered as TO630966 and was entered in the 1000km Nurburgring - it failed to finish.

TO 654423 is shown as entering the 1965 Targa Florio and came 18th. In 1966 it was entered in the Spanien (Race) and came 1st. It was entered in the 1966 Rallye "Jolly Hotels" and came first.
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