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« Reply #15 on: 14 March, 2008, 03:02:00 PM »

I'm quite jealous that you have such freedom of choice for your company car. Wincanton runs a list with mostly German cars. It's not a very big list, either.  Angry
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« Reply #16 on: 14 March, 2008, 04:51:38 PM »

Well, we'll see - German tends to predominate, but there is a Subaru and a couple of Hyundai SUVs on the fleet, as well as a Renault Megane Coupe, a Honda Accord and a Mini Convertible, so I guess slightly off the wall choices can be accommodated.  Senior staff don't appear too fazed by the idea of a Lancia, or indeed an Alfa, on the fleet, so my luck may be in!
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« Reply #17 on: 14 March, 2008, 08:26:10 PM »

Creep into the fleet managers office, fill in the form, buy the Delta and then swear he agreed while you were out together at the local pole-dancing club. How can he say no. You could even add a few extras.
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« Reply #18 on: 25 March, 2008, 07:21:54 PM »

Found on the internet:

A pricing hierarchy of three specification levels will apparently be proposed: the Argento (silver), Oro (gold) and Platino (platinum) each with differing degrees of equipment and finish. The 120bhp 1.4 T-Jet turbocharged gasoline engine will probably not be available in the top-spec Platino version, for which the 190 ps 1.9 Multijet twin-stage turbo-diesel is expected to be finally put under an Italian hood (it was first used in the Saab 9-3 in a 180 ps power-step).

The initial pricing, at least on the Austrian market, gives us an hint as to the positioning of the Lancia Delta on the European market as a whole: The 1.4 T-jet will cost 22,100 in the Argento spec and 24,340 for the 1.6 Multijet in the same spec. For the 150bhp 1.4 T-jet Platino spec, 27,500 will be needed. As a point of reference, the Austrian Fiat website displays a price of 17,990 for the Fiat Bravo 120bhp 1.4 Turbojet Active.

Also included in the brochure are a number of performance statistics. The 120 bhp 1.4 T-jet promises a top speed of 190 km/h and an acceleration from 0 to 100km/h in 10 seconds with an average fuel consumption of 6.8 litres/100km, whilst the 150bhp petrol version should reach 206 km/h and will reduce the acceleration time to 8.2 seconds with an average fuel consumption of 7.2 litres/100km.

The 120bhp 1.6 Multijet is confirmed as the most economic with an average fuel consumption of only 4.9 litres/100km, with a top speed of 186 km/h and an acceleration of 0-100km/h in 11 seconds. For all of the Deltas the minimum size of the tyres will be 205/55 on 16" rims, with five other different types of optional alloy rims at 17" and 18" and tyres up to the 225/40 Pirelli PZero Rossos.

Although the tax regimes are different a simple ratioing of prices verses the Fiat in the UK would give the Platino 1.4T a price of about 20k and the top of the range 1.9 at about 24k. That is pitching against some serious competition - with extras (and I guess AR is a good guide to prices) it will not be difficult to spend 25-28k. I had in my mind something about 5k cheaper all round.
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« Reply #19 on: 26 March, 2008, 08:51:56 AM »

I'd very much doubt we'll be looking at prices that high Neil - as you say that would place the car well above its natural competition, and for a brand with little established base, that would be commercial suicide.  Everything in the press, and everything coming back from Geneva, has suggested starting prices somewhere between 14k and 16k, with the top of the range with extras in the low twenties.  They've actually got to pitch the Delta well below the natural competition (BMW, Audi et al) on price, in order to win sales, but not so low that the car is seen as 'cheap'.  So there will for certain be a premium on the Bravo, but its likely the price comparison will be closer to equivalent VW offerings than, say, the equivalent Audi.
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« Reply #20 on: 26 March, 2008, 09:13:43 AM »

Well, looking at prices in Austria it is plumped fair and square against the A3, 1 Series and bottom of range 3 Series. Now maybe they can do this as Lancia has a brand recognition in Europe (as good as Alfas), but it would be hard in the UK.
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« Reply #21 on: 09 April, 2008, 06:22:39 PM »

Just had a Bravo 1.4 T Jet 120bhp with the 6 speed gearbox on loan while the Grande Punto was in for a tailgate water leak, if this engine and gearbox is going into the new Delta then anyone who didn't like the set up would be very hard to please.
I was very impressed by the T Jet performance and the 6 speed gearbox as well as having a great set of ratios matched to the engine, has the sweetest slickest gearchange since I can't remember when Grin and the roadholding and steering were pretty good too. Nice to see Fiat can get it right at times.

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« Reply #22 on: 09 April, 2008, 06:39:17 PM »

Pleased to hear that.  The Delta we sat in at Geneva appeared to have a wonderfully sweet and precise gearchange, but I was dubious since it may not have been fully connected up.  Sounds like it was, and its going to be one of the good things about the drive of the car - which will probably counter the over-light steering, if its anything like the Ypsi...
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« Reply #23 on: 09 April, 2008, 07:28:37 PM »

In one of the videos in our YouTube group, an American journo is talking about the Delta having a semi-automatic parking feature.

Here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRiwuwYr3Rs.  Anyone got any ideas of what they mean?  Is it like the Lexus system or just parking sensors?

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« Reply #24 on: 10 April, 2008, 08:23:25 PM »

From what I have read, I think the semi automatic parking feature refers to the ability to determine whether the car will fit into a parking space.  I haven't seen any information about it having anything like the Lexus.
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