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davidwheeler
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« Reply #195 on: 26 October, 2020, 10:51:48 PM »

I think it is impossible to polish the reflectors, it will merely remove the reflective coating.    They should be re-plated with silver.
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« Reply #196 on: 01 November, 2020, 04:26:07 PM »

David,  following some experiments on a very poor refector I tend to agree.  Best result I had is with Nevrdull.  Sort of a cotton soaked in liquid.  I must say carefull polishing did drastically improve the condition of the reflector, and probably it is ok to use it like it is now, but I did not succeed in getting the desired 'as new' shine.

First picture is of an original reflector in untouched condition (at least not by me....)
Second pic is of a hand polished one.  It is not a big difference and hard to show in a picture, but it misses the bright shine...

Worth mentioning here is that a little heat proved the best way to separate the glass from the lens.

I did some investigating: in Germany there is a compant that offers reconditioning of reflectors using a procedure of damping on aluminium under vacuum.  This is not overly expensive at 70 Euro per reflector.
I did find two companies in the UK offering re-silvering, vintage-headlap restoration and concours plating.  Anyone with experience in this field or a recommendation?

Spend more time on preparing stuff to be plated, making up some bolts and packing all up.


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« Reply #197 on: 01 November, 2020, 08:31:44 PM »

I have no personal experience of either but these two companies are well though of in the uk. Do make sure you get the proper silver plating not the aluminisation which some companies offer.

Mike


Genius of the Lamp
https://www.geniusofthelamp.co.uk/

This company is very well known for immaculate restoration of vintage lamps - very good but no doubt expensive.

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KEITH ARDLEY

Address: Classic Car Spares, Bedford House, 14, Bridge Road, Mepal, Ely, Cambs CB6 2AR
Phone: 01353 778493
Email: keith@ardley8142.fsnet.co.uk
Services: Resilvering, refurbishing and sales of lamps and Mirrors

Keith Ardley is well recommended by VSCC members for good service.

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« Reply #198 on: 01 November, 2020, 10:55:57 PM »

Incidentally, I looked today at the fittings on the underbonnet oil tank on the VIIIth and they are in native brass and not plated.    Plating them may well clog the threads as well as being not original.
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« Reply #199 on: 02 November, 2020, 08:10:33 AM »

@ Mike, thanks, I sent Keith an email!  I always prefer working with comanies that do not shout out they're the best....

@ David: Yes I have been in doubt about this.  Although on my parts there is traces of plating on one of the little valves...also the one on the gearbox is plated.
Maybe worth asking Bill Jamieson, in any case the car in his book (his own 8th which was a highly original car foto p 88) has plated fittings.  Maybe it was to order?
It's from this picture I decided to send the tank stuff along....maybe better to do some asking around....

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« Reply #200 on: 09 November, 2020, 06:19:44 PM »

No reply from Keith regarding the silvering of reflectors, but I got a reply from Concours plating, so I'll try them and let you all know the result.

Yesterday at least the subframe and one stub axle got primered.  Just gave them their final coat of matt black but no vpics yet...

I also dis some cleaning up on two 'aftermarket' front suspension caps.  Has anyone seen these before?  They were quite battered but after some hamering now more or less back into shape.  I plan to send them along with the rest to the plater later this week, see if he can make something of them.
My guess is they are a sort of dirt guard or leak protection?  In any case too nice and rare not to resque....

More work was done on cleaning, blasting and painting rear lights and headlights etc...time consuming business!


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« Reply #201 on: 10 November, 2020, 06:14:49 PM »

Today I attacked a long postponed job ie fitting the rear brake transfer tubes under the car.  It seems very simple, but as apparently none of the original mounting holes (or threaded studs) survived the body restoration, it required some measuring to get them in the proper position and aligned.  I had new threaded studs turned up with a little support in the middle as original, and got some castelated nuts from a UK supplier with the correct withworth thread.
Not very handy to work underneath the car with it being only 30 cm from the ground, but transferring it to the lift also seemed ridiculous....
Anyway all got fitted and also the front brake tranfer tube  is now properly aligned and secured with castle nuts.

Painting of the front frame turned out well, but I'll let it harden for another night...then the Lambda will get to look a bit more like one!


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« Reply #202 on: 12 November, 2020, 09:35:48 PM »

On my 5th series torpedo currently being restored, I discovered body colour (lightish blue-grey) under all the other layers of paint on the trapeze and front suspension. So I searched all the photos I could of Lambdas painted in light colours and none of them had black trapezes or front suspensions. This body colour extended to the drag link and steering arm but not I think the drop arm which seemed to be black like the steering column and box. The brakes and backplates at Falchetto's insistence (read his son's commentaries) were very properly black to lose heat.
The rear tube seemed originally to be black - no evidence of any blue colour anywhere down to the bare metal.
James Woollard remembers a long line of Lambda taxis were this blue-grey colour, all lined up on the quayside when he landed at Capri in about 1950! I may have exaggerated the date.
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« Reply #203 on: 14 November, 2020, 07:16:09 AM »

Jonathan, yes this was a difficult choice, and it was already brought up early in this post.  Indeed I think originally the frames had body colour, and even the suspension parts.  I found a lot of dark brown on some of the parts that came with my project.  As my car is a bitsa anyway, it is difficult to find out.  In my case it was a combination of factors that let me to goin for the black option:
With the car body already painted 20 years ago and stored since it would have been difficult to match the colour anyway.
I found it difficult to decide where the line would be between body coloured components and black components.
I sort of liked the Giddings replica which also has matt black on the front suspension.
It made the job easier as I do all blasting and prepping here in the workshop and the matt black is quite 'forgiving' (I use 2K good quality paint cans and must say I'm often impressed by the finish that can be achieved, even with my very limited painting capacities....)

But, it's only paint, and as the paint on the rest of the body is not perfect (but very acceptable) there might come a time it gets rapainted all over...

Your point on the rear chassis tube is a good one: weird indeed that this was originally black then.
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« Reply #204 on: 15 November, 2020, 09:03:07 PM »

just could'nt resist the pic...


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« Reply #205 on: 15 November, 2020, 10:41:23 PM »

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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« Reply #206 on: 15 November, 2020, 11:07:14 PM »

Nooooooo too. But intrigued to know what the plans are for the 8.32 motor!
Guy
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« Reply #207 on: 16 November, 2020, 06:28:11 AM »

It would be a very tight fit I fear!

I bought two 8.82 seven (!) years ago, when I was still regularly working on them for customers.  It was one good body without engine and an accident car with a good engine.  They were in a warehouse in Antwerp, comletely stacked with cars and stuff, and in the back of the warehouse.  As I had no time or lust to work a full week to get the cars out, I said to the owner: "give me a ring when I can come and pick 'm up'.  The ring came last week....

There's still another one here that was lacking some parts which was the prime reason for me to buy the lot.  So if anyone is interested two full cars here in parts....
I sort of lost intrest in 'plastic' cars so will try to sell them as a lot, which won't be easy I fear...maybe I'll have to put the easiest one together and get it running.
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« Reply #208 on: 16 November, 2020, 11:11:13 AM »

Does the car without an engine happen to have a black leather interior? I have a friend who is considering an 8:32.
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« Reply #209 on: 16 November, 2020, 06:26:47 PM »

There are a couple of Stratos replicas around with the 8.32 unit but I believe that the crank is different to the usual Ferrari 308/328 motors so it's not a screamer that those engines are? I don't think there are any further people looking for them now for replica builds, hope you manage to get 2 832's back on the road!
Guy
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