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Author Topic: Special aluminium inlet manifold....maybe for an Appia?  (Read 1810 times)
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chriswgawne
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« on: 14 August, 2018, 12:32:41 PM »

I have a Weber 40DCL carb (as fitted to 2.5 litre Aurelia B20/24)  which is mounted on what is a very nicely made substantial ( home made ) aluminium  manifold perhaps for an Appia?
I don't know enough about sidedraught Lancias of the 50s/60s to know whether this was a standard conversion?

The aluminium manifold has no water channels, no markings and is very well made with a strengthening rid running up the inside curve and the manifold to engine mounting holes are on the same centres as that of the other end of the manifold which has the carb bolted on it.

Can anyone identify what model of Lancia (if at all) this manifold might be for, its origin and would anyone be interested in acquiring it?

thanks Chris
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« Reply #1 on: 14 August, 2018, 08:48:29 PM »

I don't think it's appia. (I'm sure it is'nt, appia is two bolts only)

My feeling would be it has been fitted to a car equipped with a roots compressor or something of the like...
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« Reply #2 on: 15 August, 2018, 07:23:54 AM »

I hadn't thought about that Koen. I have always assumed it came off a Lancia or FIAT of some description even though its a big carb for a smaller than 2l engine.
If it is off a superchrger I suppose I wont ever be able to pass it on which is a shame.
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« Reply #3 on: 15 August, 2018, 08:42:20 AM »

Hi all
Appias come with a 2 port inlet or more rarely a 4 port inlet side...stick it on ebay
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« Reply #4 on: 15 August, 2018, 10:05:43 AM »

Appia were fitted with 36DCLD3 and 36dcd5 carbs
Some competition cars had side draught 40DCOE with a Facet manifold with four ports .

I think it could be off something like a Cisitalia ?

 
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« Reply #5 on: 15 August, 2018, 10:33:03 AM »

it does look like a manifold to fit a blower. Not many cars would have such a large hole!
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« Reply #6 on: 15 August, 2018, 02:31:53 PM »

Bit of a puzzle really. Its a nicely cast manifold, very substantial and nicely finished off outside and inside but absolutely no markings.

My thoughts now are possibly that it was fitted to a 50's/60's sidedraught engined car but it somehow doesn't feel old enough for that or, as John suggests, its a special manifold for a Shorrocks or similar blower from the 60's and early 70's when blowers were popular.
I will keep ferreting around.
Any help or advice gratefully received.
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« Reply #7 on: 15 August, 2018, 03:05:19 PM »

I now realise I might well be overthinking this.
It could simply be a manifold for say a Ford to be able to use a downdraught carb instead of sidedraught. Nevertheless I would like to find a home for it, particularly as it is so nicely made.
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« Reply #8 on: 18 August, 2018, 02:20:04 PM »

Well, reading the latest Octane magaqzine as its too hot here to be outside in the middle of the day, there is an moderately interesting article on a Shorrocks supercharged Ford Anglia 105E built by Allards.
The SU 'carburettor to supercharger' manifold looks remarkably similar to mine as can be seen from the attached photo so I think John is absolutely correct.
My problem now is how to advertise it effectively to move it on as I have no use for it!
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« Reply #9 on: 18 August, 2018, 02:28:52 PM »

And another photo which is even more similar to mine if not the same?
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« Reply #10 on: 18 August, 2018, 04:17:20 PM »


DereK Chin is the first name that comes to mind as a supercharger specialist.

http://www.derekchinn.org.uk/

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« Reply #11 on: 26 September, 2018, 01:11:15 PM »

This manifold is now sold. It appears it is for a blower - probably a Shorrocks C142 which was a common blower in the 60's and 70's.
Quite why it came with a downdraught Weber 40DCL I cant explain as the way Shorrocks (and other) superchargers were fitted was with the vane axle of the supercharger horizontal (to be driven off the crank pulley directly or indirectly).
Looking at my earlier pictures in this post, using this 90degree manifold a sidedraught carb would therefore have been standard?
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