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« Reply #60 on: 30 July, 2020, 12:13:18 PM »

You can get a Stanley knife down the straight bits easily enough but the corners are a real problem. The mastic really builds up there and is very difficult to get to. A long craft knife blade would probably just snap because a lot of force is needed to get through the mastic. Brian's idea about a cheese wire is probably the solution. I was trying to shift the trim to get into the corners when it all went pear shaped.
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« Reply #61 on: 31 July, 2020, 11:36:28 AM »

Just a thought but a hot air gun may help. Using old screen establish melting point of screen bonding  material.
Then perhaps with cheese wire or thin blade work your way around screen.

I seem to recall when these screens were fitted, the mastic contained a copper wire that conducted electric current to soften bonding material.
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« Reply #62 on: 31 July, 2020, 07:32:03 PM »

A bit of heat to soften the bonding agent is a good call  Cool
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« Reply #63 on: 31 July, 2020, 10:18:41 PM »

I seem to recall when these screens were fitted, the mastic contained a copper wire that conducted electric current to soften bonding material.

Did they still use that system on screens for the Y10? I know the Beta screens used it and makes them a real pain to get out.

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« Reply #64 on: 01 August, 2020, 10:32:58 AM »

The one I am working on is certainly bonded but I have what appears to be a rear screen rubber so possibly they changed it at some point. I am going to investigate further but it's too hot to work outside at the moment and I have been hiding indoors in the cool proof reading a booklet for someone.
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« Reply #65 on: 01 August, 2020, 10:45:26 AM »

The one I am working on is certainly bonded but I have what appears to be a rear screen rubber so possibly they changed it at some point. I am going to investigate further but it's too hot to work outside at the moment and I have been hiding indoors in the cool proof reading a booklet for someone.
Real odd but both of my Y10's had the bonding and the Rubber, and I'm sure the manual and the  parts list show this.
About 2005 I had what must have been the last of new/old stock tailgates, that David Melluish unearthed from somewhere fitted to my Gtie to replace a rotten tailgate, and I had to purchase the rubber, but it went back in only with the rubber and mastic.
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« Reply #66 on: 01 August, 2020, 07:22:05 PM »

Thanks Brian. Mine is bonded but has (had) an external trim that looks like a screen rubber. I'll know more when I get back on it.
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« Reply #67 on: 01 August, 2020, 08:46:28 PM »

Sure I read somewhere that they have a rubber seal fitted to the glass which becomes the visual outer seal but bonded in, is a strange mishmash of methods. Guess it saves having to have clips in the bonder like on early alfa suds which were needed for the stainless trim to clip into.
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« Reply #68 on: 02 August, 2020, 09:19:36 AM »

I do have a rear screen sat in my garage if any help
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« Reply #69 on: 03 August, 2020, 09:20:42 AM »

I might have to pay you a visit. Did you get my reply to your e-mail about the seats? Some better alcantara rear side trim panels could be useful If you have any.
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« Reply #70 on: 04 August, 2020, 07:23:18 AM »

Didnít see your reply 🙀 I donít have the rear panels alas
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« Reply #71 on: 04 August, 2020, 09:24:50 AM »

I've found it now Trevor, thanks.

I think the issue with fixing back seats probably relates to the upper locking pins. On all my "E" Reg cars the pins have screwed directly into the body but on the Touring I harvested parts from at Bun Courage's the pins were on a metal plate and it was the plate that attached to the body with multiple bolts.



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« Reply #72 on: 04 August, 2020, 06:08:28 PM »

I've decided I need to get the Y10 back on the road so I'm going to stabilise the old tailgate for the moment to allow more time to build a good one.

Slightly alarmingly the better tailgate I have started preparing even had rust deep under the mastic attaching the rear window which seems to have crept through from the other side where the inner and outer panels are folded together.

On the old tailgate I'm trying an old trick of pushing a wire under the screen rubber to raise it up so I can get paint to spray slightly underneath it and avoid a visible join.


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« Reply #73 on: 08 August, 2020, 07:54:18 PM »

Seats are an issue for me. The top outer edge of my front seats have worn and faded over the years and are really no longer presentable. I had hoped to keep the car standard but the chances of getting better seats from an un restorable car are pretty much nil. I have therefore girded my loins and taken up Trevor on his offer of some alcantara seats. They need work because of the usual bobbling, the metalwork underneath and on the frame is lightly rusted and the main back seat has some holes.

I have started by using my trusty "bobble buster" to give the seats a shave and it has proved reasonably successful. As an experiment I have saved a bag of shavings in the hope that I may be able to do something with them to plug the holes. The alternative is to snip some tiny bits of alcantara from underneath to make patches. Has anyone got experience of attempting this?


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« Reply #74 on: 09 August, 2020, 08:26:41 PM »

Looking good Frank!
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