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« on: 26 February, 2018, 11:27:07 AM »

Last year I had to have surgery on my back, which was successful.
However my back will never be totally "fixed" and back pain is a constant irritant.

My problem is that it does seem to be worse after a longish drive in the Fulvia.

I realize that the seats would seem to be the obvious culprit. However they do have reasonable lumber support, which I have increased with extra padding.
I reckon they now offer better than average back support.

Now, I really love my Fulvia, and love the way it drives. Well all except the ride quality over broken surfaces. It really does crash and bang over poorly surfaced roads.
I am now worried that it is this harshness that is causing my back issues.
The thought that I can no longer drive the Fulvia without harming my back is a bit depressing.

How should a good Fulvia ride and is the series 1 better in this respect. Period road tests always praised the ride quality of early cars.
If series 2 and 3 coupe are firmer riding, then presumably fitting Series 1 Springs might be the way to go.

I'm running 165/80/R14 Sinceras at 25 psi.

Any opinions on this much appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: 26 February, 2018, 12:58:48 PM »

Hi Mark

Having driven 160 miles and back to race Retro on Friday in my screaming 1600 HF (17mph/1000 in 5th on 70 % tyres - you do the math for 5000) I think maybe you should look at your seats / springing and dampers / steering/steering wheel.
Maybe I am lucky but I have yet to have a sore back from driving a Fulvia. I set the front up quite firm (19mm arb, spax adjustable shocks and S1 front spring) but leave the back standard with de-carbon shocks. I have a similar set up with my 1600 Sport which we go all over Europe in. The HF has thinnish seats but very supportive, the Sport has better padded seats and in some way are not so supportive. I am 1.75m tall and 86 kgs. I have lowered the steering wheel for ergonomic comfort. Think how you are putting in steering effort - maybe this is the aggravation of your back.

Anyway that my 2 p worth. Hope you stick with it....

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« Reply #2 on: 26 February, 2018, 01:48:02 PM »

Fulvia ride quality is normally very good and supple. If it is crashing, it needs to be brought up to specification.

Normally people first look at the shocks, and make sure they have the right ones. Check that of course.
Then the tires, make sure you have the proper sidewall height, and someone hasn't put on "performance" tires with a lower stiffer profile.
Check any the bushings in the suspension.

Last, and in some ways as important as any of the rest, are the interleaves on the leaf springs. These are almost always overlooked, but as they age they get stiff, and the leaf springs don't flex, they bind a bit. Its amazing what changing this can do to make the ride as it was originally. Unfortunately one has to do the front and the two rear springs, which is a PITA, but it is worth it! I had a Fulvia that went from "well I guess its OK, for an old car" to "boy is this a sophisticated ride, quite nice".
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« Reply #3 on: 26 February, 2018, 02:19:32 PM »

Thanks for the advice,

I have rebuilt the rear axle and fitted new interleaves and dampers. I think the back of the car is actually fine.

Its definitely the front that feels hard. Perhaps I should have a go at getting the front spring out.
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« Reply #4 on: 26 February, 2018, 07:03:30 PM »

I had a Fulvia 3 Coupe which I enjoyed hugely, however the one area I had a bit of difficulty with was the seating.  I felt my seats lacked support under my thighs, also with the distance between the pedals and steering wheel meant I drove the car in a sort of crouched position.  There is an adjustment of sorts that can be done to effectively raise/lower the rear of the seat base which only makes a small difference. 

I now have a Sport which I have had no problems in at all, the seats being very supportive all round.  Looking at picture of HFs I would imagine the seats are similarly supportive. 

Obviously, the 'crashing' sounds suspension related, in fact it sounds like my modern BMW 2 series which rattles your fillings should you drive over potholes! 
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« Reply #5 on: 01 March, 2018, 07:46:05 AM »

My advice is to look very carefully at the front suspensions. Andrea
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« Reply #6 on: 01 March, 2018, 09:06:32 AM »

What's known as the Classic Italian Driving Position, - long arms- short legs!
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« Reply #7 on: 01 March, 2018, 12:54:07 PM »

I agree the driving position and seats arenít great. Seat lack thigh support and I feel too high up.
I have managed to drop the rear of the seat base, which helps a bit.
Have considered aftermarket seats, but nothing really looks right.

Iíll definitely overhaul the front suspension though.
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« Reply #8 on: 01 March, 2018, 11:39:45 PM »

You could try to increase the height of the front of the seat base with a strip of wood or something underneath the front of the base.  My seats in the Fulvia 3 had been recovered but possibly they also needed refoaming to bolster the front of the base to give better thigh support.

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