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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: nthomas1 on 09 September, 2017, 06:31:59 PM



Title: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: nthomas1 on 09 September, 2017, 06:31:59 PM
This is a topic that has generated quite a lot of interest in the Lancia Fulvia group on Facebook so I thought Iíd share it with the forum.

It started with a posting (first picture below) on another Lancia Fulvia related Facebook group.  I donít know if it is true that Castagnero when he was designing the Fulvia coupe was influenced by the shape of the Riva, as suggested in this post, but it does seem plausible.  Itís not something Iíd read about before but it made me think of a picture I had seen in Style Auto magazine many years ago. I dug out the picture (second photo below) and while the article it came from didnít mention speedboats, the left hand side of the image (described as ďthe basic ideaĒ) certainly evoked the image of a speedboat.  The right hand side of the picture blacks out certain sections, leaving the shape of the Fulvia coupe.

I then found a birds-eye picture of a Riva speedboat on Google (picture 3), and finally, a birds-eye view of a Fulvia that I took in Naples about 40 years ago.  I think they lend credence to the suggestion.   Has anybody seen reference to this before?


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: stanley sweet on 12 September, 2017, 10:12:50 AM
Sounds plausible to me. In design everything is influenced by something else, sometimes without even realising it. Though this would seem to be more of a conscious influence, if true. Should have been called the Fulvia Barchetta.


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: chriswgawne on 12 September, 2017, 11:51:16 AM
Fascinating. I had never been aware of the similarities before.
Chris


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: davidwheeler on 16 September, 2017, 08:53:20 AM
Now, did the Riva have a Fulvia engine???


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: Dilambdaman on 16 September, 2017, 10:34:05 AM
Now that would be an incredible feat of engineering to shoehorn 2 Lamborghini engines into a Fulvia! :o But boy, would it go! ;D

Robin.


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: rogerelias on 16 September, 2017, 06:53:29 PM
I would want a plumbed in extinguisher system with all those spitting carbs  ::)  Riva boats are the best though 


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: davidwheeler on 17 September, 2017, 04:08:22 PM
Mein Gott!!!!  or should I say Mio Dio!?  The German sounds better I think.


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: frankxhv773t on 17 September, 2017, 06:58:40 PM
A pair of Thema 8:32 engines would work for me though I have a feeling that has been done.


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: stanley sweet on 18 September, 2017, 09:01:17 AM
I'm sure I read somewhere recently that there are no longer any new Riva boats being built. Every Riva you see will be a 'classic' of some age. I thought it was one of those brands that would go on forever. They are truly beautiful things though. Imagine the noise of those two Lamborghini engines......


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: nthomas1 on 19 September, 2017, 08:38:20 PM
Here's the Lancia di Lancia powerboat from a few years back. It had twin Fiat N67-560 diesel marine engines.  I remember reading about a speedboat with a Stratos engine at a Fiat promotional event at an Italian GP in the late 70s. Does anybody know anything about the Flaminia-class speed boats from back in the 1960s?  Did they have Lancia engines or was the naming just a coincidence?


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: frankxhv773t on 19 September, 2017, 08:48:18 PM
We had a thread on this recently.  They did use the Flaminia V6.


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: nthomas1 on 19 September, 2017, 09:30:55 PM
Thanks Frank.  Can you recall the date and/or title of the post?  Presumably it was in the Flaminia section?


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: Richard Fridd on 23 September, 2017, 06:54:44 PM
If of interest, Malcolm Cambell's K3 hydrofoil is due a test run on Tuesday 26/09/17 this week coming, at Bewl Water in Sussex, entry £2 per car including occupants.


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: DavidLaver on 23 September, 2017, 09:37:34 PM

Am trying to work out if I can go or not...  Here's the link from Richard.

https://www.bewlwater.co.uk/whats-on/test-run-of-blue-bird-k3/

....and this from the museum website.

http://www.speedace.info/filching_manor_motor_museum.htm
http://www.bluebird-electric.net/bluebird_k3_jet_rolls_royce_merlin_hydroplane_boat.htm


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: frankxhv773t on 25 September, 2017, 07:56:36 PM
The Flaminia powerboat thread was 6th May 2017 in General Chat.


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: frankxhv773t on 25 September, 2017, 08:24:55 PM
I finally found the Thema 8:32 engine power boat but pictures of the engine installation still elude me.


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: Richard Fridd on 27 September, 2017, 09:55:17 AM
The Bewl Water run fortunately had good weather. Our group of six found a great spot at a table on the clubhouse restaurant balcony,


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: stanley sweet on 27 September, 2017, 11:56:10 AM
That must have been a great sight to see. Bet it sounded nice too.


Title: Re: Fulvia Coupe and Riva speedboat
Post by: Richard Fridd on 27 September, 2017, 01:38:33 PM
Just like going back in time really. Once the boat was on it's trailer, I noticed the two bladed propeller was quite small