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Model Technical and Interest => Appia => Topic started by: lancianut666 on 24 April, 2017, 02:08:58 PM



Title: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 24 April, 2017, 02:08:58 PM
Hi all Appia Consortium members past, present and soon to be. Just to let you know I am running the membership and spares side of the consortium from now so Don has time to deal with the more tricky technical stuff. So if you need parts or membership details get in touch by email appiasparesconsortium@outlook.com or telephone 07533655636 I prefer an email as it keeps me up to date with any requirements you people may have I will probably forget a phone call unless I am at home with a pen and pad. Nice to report the membership renewals is coming along very well with over 20 replies already.
##### If you feel you should of received a renewal form and a newsletter please get in touch as I know already of one example where Royal Mail have let me down and a member did not receive his newsletter.####
 One pleasing aspect of all this information whizzing around are the lovely stamps I have been getting landing on my mat.
Clarkey
Stop press I have just set in motion the manufacture of a new batch of head gaskets in copper and composite so watch this space


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: the.cern on 24 April, 2017, 05:39:01 PM
Hi Jim, I am sorry but no stamp from me ..... I have paid directly into the Consortium account!!!

                                         Andy


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: JohnMillham on 25 April, 2017, 10:04:11 AM
Who is making the head gaskets and what are they like?


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 25 April, 2017, 11:09:11 AM
Hi
A company called Sangalli Guarnizioni I have not seen the gaskets yet but they seem to know what they are doing 
http://www.sangalliguarnizioni.com/
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: JohnMillham on 25 April, 2017, 12:29:36 PM
Thanks. I have used some of those and they were OK. Regards, John


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: chriswgawne on 25 April, 2017, 02:42:34 PM
They are my 'supplier of choice' for Aurelia head gaskets.
Chris


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: the.cern on 25 April, 2017, 07:24:07 PM
That is all very reassuring re the head gaskets!! Thanks for setting it up .... with a bit of luck I won't need to use one!!!!

                                     Andy


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 04 May, 2017, 07:31:18 PM
Update
A little bird tells me the head gaskets are being manufactured and will be ready to ship to the UK possibly by Monday
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 23 May, 2017, 04:04:12 PM
Good news the head gaskets have arrived
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 08 June, 2017, 11:57:40 AM
Hi all
I am deep into marking A level Classics papers at the moment so any turn around of parts will be a bit slow.
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 09 July, 2017, 12:23:25 PM
Hi all
During a lull in the fighting (marking) I took the opportunity to visit a local classic car auction at Thornton le Dale. The reason was they had a S3 saloon up for auction with no reserve. So early Saturday I arrived to find the car seen below. On closer inspection the radiator and dynamo had gone walkabout and the boot was locked and no keys...I'm guessing but the missing parts will be in the boot. Anyway by pulling on the fan belt I managed to get the engine to turn but only for about a quarter of a turn accompanied by some clunky noises from the engine...piston seized in the bore? the head had been off at sometime as the domed nuts were replaced with castellated ones...Hmmm. The interior was a bit tired with a big burn or rip in the front seat back and various switches missing along with all the armrests absent. The exterior had been resprayed a sickly green but rust was bubbling through a several places. Anyway the auction came and the bidding rapidly went past the consortiums budget and ended at 1000 but with transport and the buyers fee of 75 plus vat the real price came out at around 1250. As we only really wanted the car for spares this was a price too high. If any members of the LMC have bought this car please get in touch I'm dying to know what is in the boot! also we have as you all know a vast range of spares.
ps one thing struck me was that as the auction was held in the church hall opposite the cars were not driven through as at non classic auctions I have been to admittedly some would be hardpushed to move under their own power alot of money was changing hands on some of these cars Hmmm...Caveat emptor


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: Parisien on 09 July, 2017, 06:21:51 PM
http://mathewsons.co.uk/vehicle-auction-catalogue/1790-new-entry2

Not sure how or when they issue results, but sale price not on advert page

P


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 11 August, 2017, 01:06:30 PM
My mate Terry came along for a wee trip north of the border to have a look at a car the consortium had been offered for spares...turned out to be very interesting as the owner informed us the car was registered in 1955 but is a S2 saloon? see the pics for more clues
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 11 August, 2017, 01:09:19 PM
and there's more


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 11 August, 2017, 01:11:08 PM
and more...


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 11 August, 2017, 01:17:03 PM
Seems the car has had a lot of mods over the years such as the Nardi carb setup. the twin circuit brakes etc. What was also included was a S3 engine and gearbox,front axle,back axle and lots of other stuff. Terry and I will be having another trip up next week with a van to bring the spares back and some tools so we can free off the brakes so we can recover the car down to Hartlepool.
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: mikeC on 11 August, 2017, 05:16:12 PM
It's definitely a Series 2, Jim; if I'm reading the commission plate correctly I think it says C10-11263, which makes it the sixth right-hand drive Series 2 built (rhd starts at C10-11258) and should date from 1956. Is it saveable?


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: Parisien on 12 August, 2017, 09:33:48 AM
It's definitely a Series 2, Jim; if I'm reading the commission plate correctly I think it says C10-11263, which makes it the sixth right-hand drive Series 2 built (rhd starts at C10-11258) and should date from 1956. Is it saveable?

Same here, is it saveable, I suspect even the laid up/barnfinds of Appias and indeed original UK registered Appias is in single figures, would make a nice project for the LMC/member or some other arrangement perhaps?


P


PS Great work as ever Clarkey!


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: mikeC on 12 August, 2017, 10:01:48 AM
Thinking about it, it is generally quoted that the Series 2 was introduced in 1956, but ... perhaps that should read for the 1956 model year, in which case this could well be a very late 1955 car - dare one hope that it was the 1955 Motor Show car?!!!!


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 12 August, 2017, 12:58:36 PM
Hi all
I consulted the oracle AKA Don Cross and he thinks it might have an Abarth head to go with the Nardi carb kit. The owner told me he has some documentation to go with it and he was certain it was registered in 1955. Perhaps more will be revealed when we go up later next week.
As to is it saveable...as we all know any car can be saved but it depends on how deep one`s pockets are. Judging by the corrosion in the boot floor, boot lid, rear wings etc.. it is in the project category. It might be easier to judge when we get it out in the daylight!
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: rogerelias on 12 August, 2017, 07:08:02 PM
Any idea how many S2 RHD berlinas are still on the road?


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: mikeC on 13 August, 2017, 08:02:44 AM
Club Lancia Appia list twenty in Italy - from the photos they all appear to be roadworthy:

http://www.clublanciaappia.it/wp/censimento_elenco.php?t=1

Then add a very small number here in the UK, plus maybe a few in Australia and South Africa, so probably thirty world-wide ... not many at all!


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 17 August, 2017, 12:44:13 PM
They are like the old proverbial bus. We have a new member Herman in Belgium who has just joined he has a S2 and we have been donated a very early S2 from Scotland. see pic of Herman's car


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 17 August, 2017, 03:44:09 PM
Hi all you consortium members Good News!
just received a big pack of the fibre washers that go under the spiral clutch springs


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: mikeC on 17 August, 2017, 08:11:55 PM
Your timing is impeccable - I'm just about to re-assemble my clutch!


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 17 August, 2017, 08:20:00 PM
We aim to please..
had a quick tinker with the engine and I can report the crank can be moved fairly easily by hand phew! So possibly in the morning I will strip it down clean it all up pop a new gasket in and put it back together
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 17 August, 2017, 08:24:26 PM
Oops in the wrong thread


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 21 August, 2017, 12:06:55 PM
Hi all
In preparation for the arrival of the S2 car I have took the plunge and purchased a staircase so we can utilise the space above the office area down at the unit. My mate Terry has been roped in and he loves messing about with bits of wood
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 31 August, 2017, 07:10:35 PM
Hi all
Staircase is up and have been mainly tidying up today some before and after shots, the new staircase has really helped. Do we think a S2 will fit in there?
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: the.cern on 01 September, 2017, 06:12:06 AM
I think it will, you'll just need to take a run at it!!!  :) :)

                                    Andy


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 01 September, 2017, 09:25:09 AM
Now I look at the photos again I think I will have to make a bit more room


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 01 September, 2017, 09:33:53 AM
On another issue troubling us Appia owners is main bearings their availability and cost. As one of the procurers for the Condsortium I had a trip to JEL BEARINGS (http://www.jelbearings.co.uk/index.php) just outside York. The nice man there told me he could bore out a worn main bearing cast in new white metal and then rebore to the correct size. The Consortium has at least 10 sets of knackered main bearings so it would probably work out quicker and cheaper than our friends in Italy. I had a chat with the oracle Don Cross and the only snag he could see would be the machining of the end face and the scroll for oil as this controls the end float. Any thoughts or comments on this would be most appreciated.
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: simonandjuliet on 01 September, 2017, 10:12:19 AM
Putting the ladder up makes a lot of sense. Does the floor need to be strengthened ?

What about hanging things from the rafters , oh and maybe dig a cellar as well .......

I can help when I come over in early October


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 01 September, 2017, 04:15:09 PM
Thanks Simon with a bit of luck the S2 will have arrived by then. made a bit more room
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: mikeC on 01 September, 2017, 05:45:11 PM
It's no good, the dog can't sleep there ...


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: Dilambdaman on 02 September, 2017, 07:41:05 AM
Can thoroughly recommended JEL, they have been most helpful and carried out top quality work on the Dilambda engine bottom end.

Robin


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 02 September, 2017, 09:21:34 AM
I might have to give him another visit and see if he can do anything with the endfloat part of the bearing


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 September, 2017, 10:16:08 AM
Well just got back last night from north of the border after a successful attempt to prise the S2 from it's 30 year slumber (tax disc from 1986 on the screen) Had a bit of a panic when we jacked up a wheel and found it was locked solid as I had forgot the hub puller but some wacks with an aluminium mallet and a bit of leverage with a long bar and it was freed off a bit. The other 3 wheels were not so stuck so we got the garage doors open and attempted to give ourselves a heart attack by pushing the wee beastie out into the daylight after 30 years.I must give praise to my mate Terry as he has a bit more bulk than me and he made the difference. I will let the pictures tell the story of the afternoon.
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 September, 2017, 10:18:00 AM
The chap in the photo is Alex Howat who has kindly donated the car to the consortium


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 September, 2017, 10:21:13 AM
I think it looks interesting as a project for someone as Alex mentioned that he thinks the bottom end of the engine might have been tuned/upgraded as well as the head......


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 September, 2017, 10:23:35 AM
Boot floor is in need of some attention....nice to see it outside again!


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 September, 2017, 10:25:16 AM
All wrapped up for the journey south


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 September, 2017, 10:31:26 AM
obviously missing were the bonnet, boot lid and front bumper but they will be picked up with lots of other stuff after the car is in Hartlepool..good news was we have a set of keys...
off to organise the moving of the car hopefully next week
Knackered of Hartlepool signing off
ps had a loan of a Polo for the day as the Beetle was in for a service. 999cc 110bhp 3 cylinder turbocharged went quite well and pretty good on juice 56mpg overall


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 September, 2017, 11:06:56 AM
update
car will be in the unit Tuesday 12th September
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: Parisien on 07 September, 2017, 11:13:32 AM
Great stuff, more power to your collective elbows!


P


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: simonandjuliet on 07 September, 2017, 11:51:07 AM
Well done Jim and Terry and thanks to Alex for donating it to the consortium


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 14 September, 2017, 08:05:35 AM
Safely back in Hartlepool...I did not go up to collect the car but hired a car recovery expert see pics
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 14 September, 2017, 08:08:02 AM
there's more...I can only give SGS a plug for the dollies we used to move the car after we got it off the back of the wagon they are a godsend.
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 14 September, 2017, 08:10:17 AM
All in all a success as it belted it down the next day and the driver had not put the tarp back on and the bonnet and boot were not attached to the car Phew!


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 14 September, 2017, 08:12:14 AM
Sorry about the blurry photos but my heart was pounding like a jackhammer!!! good job I had no2 son with me...


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: williamcorke on 14 September, 2017, 09:55:43 AM
Lovely little Nardi air filter.


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 18 September, 2017, 01:21:06 PM
Hi all
I was having a rummage around the S2 and found the heater on the back seat so that explains the two hoses in the engine bay! In addition to that I came across a pair of rear wings in aluminum (I will get some photos) that I assumed were from a slightly more exotic version but now look to me to have been fabricated for a S2.
Still left to collect from Scotland are :-
Appia engine S3
Flavia engine
Appia gearbox
Appia front & rear axles
Appia boot lid x 2
Flavia boot lid
Appia bonnet S2
Appia bumper front S2
Flavia front seats x 4
Appia front seats x 2
Flavia back seat
Appia back seat
6 door panels
small engine parts just 8 boxes worth
and a few bits of trim
I will be checking the weather forecast next week and planning the trip round that thing is I'm a bit worried about access see pic
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: nistri on 19 September, 2017, 09:38:02 AM
Great Work!  :) Many thanks, Andrea


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 20 September, 2017, 02:41:20 PM
Hi all
I am contemplating a newsletter hopefully before Christmas and was considering producing a PDF version as well as a printed one. The beauty of the PDF version it enables printing of individual pages, can be read on various devices and saves the consortium cash! So any budding authors don't be shy get an article off to me and it will be included deadline will be around the middle of November.
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 22 September, 2017, 08:03:32 PM
Looks like next Wednesday for the trip North of the Border pictures to follow


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 14 October, 2017, 03:36:45 PM
the dearth of articles will mean I will be forced to call on my back up contributor...you know who you are...
So far I have an article on getting a Vignale to move under it's own power, a nifty mod on the clutch release sleeve oil seal ( that leather thing that won't fit) and the one you have all been waiting for if I can get him to write up the experience namely the cern and those noises from under the car. We have also had members with clutch problems and my complete lack of progress on the S1 restoration. Hopefully if the S2 can be moved on up or out I can get the engine back in......only how many days to Christmas. On top of that we may be moving house AARRGGHH!!
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 31 October, 2017, 04:18:21 PM
The blue S2 is still snoozing in the unit as it failed to meet it's reserve on Ebay...still a Lancia enthusiast is coming to have a look next weekend so hopefully it will find a new home


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 15 November, 2017, 07:37:06 PM
###### STOP PRESS ######
Seeing as how I will be laid up probably over Christmas ( my op is the 12th December) if any Consortium members really need some parts it might be best to get an email off to me in the next couple of weeks.
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 15 January, 2018, 03:09:22 PM
last chance for any newsletter article...


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 04 April, 2018, 11:51:03 AM
Appia Consortium renewal forms in the post or by email this week promise...
Clarkey
War is hell
no it isn't
Moving house is hell!


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 20 April, 2018, 03:26:39 PM
Hi all
Posted all the Consortium membership renewal forms...please let me know if you think you should get one but it has not arrived..
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 28 April, 2018, 10:13:10 AM
Keep up the good work! plenty of renewals in this week
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 27 May, 2018, 04:37:34 PM
Still had some forms come in this last week so will do the newsletter next week as I am marking the week after
Have had a delivery of dust boots for the wheel cylinders if anyone needs some
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 23 July, 2018, 08:08:57 AM
Hi all
Good news ...we are in the new house...still lots to do but a couple of weeks and everything will be sorted...did manage despite all the chaos to finish the newsletter so they will be posted/emailed by the end of the week.
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 26 July, 2018, 04:43:15 PM
managed to have a peak at a new home for the consortium spare parts...smaller and more expensive than Hartlepool...the search goes on
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 02 August, 2018, 09:35:51 AM
Hi all
I will be at the AGM alas not in the S1 or the Y10 but in Matron's new battle wagon a Skoda Karoq so we will have plenty of room...so if anybody is in need of parts let me know before tomorrow as I have to go up to Hartlepool so I could pick up any spares required.
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 10 September, 2018, 06:54:46 PM
Did not make the AGM as Mum was poorly


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 02 February, 2019, 01:13:05 PM
Hi all
Been a bit busy of late as my dear old Mum passed away on New Years Day...A couple of things I have been looking to downsize the storage premises for the Consortium spares and will take a 300 sq ft unit on a 6 month lease till I can locate something a bit nearer home. So if anyone is free from now till the end of February to help move the spares it would be most helpful. It is also membership renewal and newsletter time so expect a renewal form over the next week or so and if anyone has any stuff for the newsletter drop me a line on appiasparesconsortium@outlook.com
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 08 February, 2019, 10:52:38 AM
peek at the new spare parts home
Don't forget "YOUR CONSORTIUM NEEDS YOU!"
I have one volunteer lined up, my mate Terry is up for it, the dog is up for it so don't be shy a trip to Hartlepool in February...bring it on!
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 13 February, 2019, 08:55:08 AM
bit more done


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 13 February, 2019, 08:58:08 AM
and more


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: will on 14 February, 2019, 08:41:15 AM
Looks so nice and clean well done. I wish i lived closer I come and help.



Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: Cassino on 14 February, 2019, 10:34:29 AM
Just like Will, I'd love to give you a hand or two.........just too far away in North East Hampshire I'm afraid.

Ian


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 27 February, 2019, 01:39:10 PM
No problems guys it is very therapeutic sorting all the stuff out...bit more done


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 27 February, 2019, 01:41:37 PM
And more...might get a bit more done at the weekend
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: Cassino on 28 February, 2019, 12:39:32 PM
Well done Clarkey,your doing a great job......An Appia supermarket.....wonderful.


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: Parisien on 28 February, 2019, 01:13:30 PM
Well done Clarkey,your doing a great job......An Appia supermarket.....wonderful.

Amazon had better watch out!

Great effort and commitment to the consortium, well done.

P


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 06 March, 2019, 03:45:46 PM
Little by little


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 06 March, 2019, 03:53:33 PM
Oh dear look what someone has dumped in the old unit!!!
Still plenty of room
Bit more at the weekend possibly it is like the Monsoon here so no tinkering with old cars outside today
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 17 March, 2019, 05:28:18 PM
Some more moving of stuff on Friday as my youngest son came over to help his old Dad


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 22 March, 2019, 10:54:01 PM
Hi all
Moved 14 gearboxes today....
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 01 April, 2019, 10:44:16 AM
All moved so I'm having a rest....


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 01 April, 2019, 11:04:42 AM
there is more


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 April, 2019, 10:44:53 AM
Hi all
Decided we needed some more robust shelving to get some of the heavy boxes off the floor to give us some room. To that end the consortium has invested in 200kg shelving from the Big Dug. I have to confess i was pleasantly surprised at the finished product and the value for money as I thought they had sent too many parts till I realised the deal was for three 5 shelf units that can be fastened together.
Clarkey


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 April, 2019, 10:48:35 AM
one finished rack


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 April, 2019, 10:51:57 AM
with some stuff on it


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 07 April, 2019, 10:55:40 AM
And here is another rack ready to take some more of the spares...when I get the 3rd rack assembled I will clip them all together


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancialulu on 07 April, 2019, 11:17:10 AM
Superglue?


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 08 April, 2019, 10:19:39 AM
Big Dug supply some metal clips that lock into the cutouts in the uprights all very clever and not a nut and bolt in sight...


Title: Re: Appia Consortium News
Post by: lancianut666 on 23 April, 2019, 11:45:13 AM
At last we can see the wood for the trees
Clarkey