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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: Caracad on 03 January, 2016, 02:24:45 PM



Title: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Caracad on 03 January, 2016, 02:24:45 PM
Happy new year to all.

Anyone know what can be done about a rusty fuel tank?
Are new ones available?

Car wasn't running well and I found carbs full of sediment.
Looked inside tank and it is very rusty inside. Has holed in places and been repaired in the past.

Any advice would be appreciated.



Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: lancialulu on 03 January, 2016, 02:34:40 PM
best to buy a new one. You can seal them but my experience of the frost product is caveat emptor. Omicron say they have remanufactured so you could try them or Cavallitto.


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Parisien on 03 January, 2016, 03:36:22 PM
http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7239.0


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Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Caracad on 03 January, 2016, 04:05:32 PM
Thanks for info.
Glad you can get new tanks. I know I could have treated and sealed the old tank, but it's a hit and miss affair.

Will call Omicron in the morning. Good job I will back at work earning some money.


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: chriswgawne on 03 January, 2016, 04:34:02 PM
Cavalitto had them in stock when I was last there a couple of months ago and give excellent service. If you try to restore your tank I suspect you will be chasing your tail unless you get an expert to cut it open and repair it properly which might well be more expensive than a new one.
Chris


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: lancialulu on 03 January, 2016, 06:29:44 PM
If you try to restore your tank I suspect you will be chasing your tail unless you get an expert to cut it open and repair it properly which might well be more expensive than a new one.
Chris

Thats the problem I had with my Flavia Vignale Injection tank. In the end I have had to cut the top off and was amazed how little the sealant covered the rusty bits - you would never know....


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Parisien on 08 January, 2016, 12:51:51 PM
There is an article about repairing same in one of the Australian newsletters if you go down the repair route.


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Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: nthomas1 on 09 January, 2016, 02:01:44 PM
I was researching this topic a while back.  There is some useful information in one of the forum posts.  I found that the titles of posts don't always indicate what is contained - especially as some topics evolve into others.  When I read all of the forum posts on purchasing my S2 Coupe I built myself a crude index of topics that helps me find things!!  On about Page 7 of the Fulvia Forum look for a post by Franco1966, with a last post date of 21 October.  The title is "New Member 1966 S1 Fulvia 1.2".  It includes some interesting information about fuel tanks.
Cheers, Norm Thomas


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Caracad on 09 January, 2016, 05:49:35 PM
Bought a new one from Omicron. Great service, as they had them in stock and sent it out the same day.
It's a perfect recreation of the original and fitted without any messing around. Only issue is the cost, but this is sort of understandable as tooling up steel pressings is expensive.

Not sure what to do with the old tank. Should I just chuck it out, or hang on to it in the unlikely event I'll get it refurbished some time?

Car going much better now that the carbs aren't full of rust.


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Dilambdaman on 19 February, 2016, 10:54:12 PM
Aaron Radiators will cut it open, clean and paint.

Did a great job on the Dilambda - no one seems to make these days.  ;D

http://www.aaronradiator.co.uk/

Robin
P.S. Don't throw it away!


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: rogerelias on 20 February, 2016, 06:21:43 PM
I have a brand new one in my loft, and no I am not flogging it  :)


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Parisien on 20 February, 2016, 06:24:38 PM
I have a brand new one in my loft, and no I am not flogging it  :)

Roger....am shocked and horrified in equal measure...........

 ;D


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Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Caracad on 16 March, 2016, 11:09:20 AM
Since fitting the new tank, I have so far failed to fully seal the filler pipe connection.

I assume that the rubber seal should compress between lip on the filler pipe and the end of the tank threaded pipe. What seems to happen is the the seal is riding up over the OD of the tank threaded pipe.  Rubber seal is square section.

Maybe I am tightening the nut up too much.

Anyone have any tips on making this join work?


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: lancialulu on 16 March, 2016, 04:06:36 PM
I understand that a fulvia top hose is correct diameter and can be cut up to make another gasket if you have distorted yours.


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: rogerelias on 16 March, 2016, 08:12:30 PM
Roger....am shocked and horrified in equal measure...........

lol


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Caracad on 19 March, 2016, 08:46:24 AM
So had another go at sealing the joint. Getting good at removing the filler pipe. I use the electric facet pump I  fitted to to empty the tank first.

Anyway I noticed that if the filler pipe was aligned at the top end it wasn't seating properly at the tank.

It was fairly easy to bend the tank outlet slightly to line everything up.

I then used rubber sealing tape, wrapping it tightly around the filler pipe before assembling the joint.

So far so good, although I am yet to brim the tank.


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: lancialulu on 19 March, 2016, 01:24:59 PM
What is rubber sealing tape? If it is self amalgamating then I think this is softned by petrol...


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Caracad on 19 March, 2016, 02:35:35 PM
I left some in some petrol all night and it came out completely intact.
Not sure where I got it, it was in the garage in one of my many random storage tins.

I will keep an eye on the joint though.


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Caracad on 21 March, 2016, 06:35:46 PM
Turns out I have a tiny hole in the tank. Porous weld around the spigot.

Omicron are sending me a replacement.


Title: Re: Rusty fuel tank.
Post by: Caracad on 04 April, 2016, 11:06:46 AM
For the purposes of closure;

Replacement tank arrived from Omicron as promised and the courier took the leaky one away.

Now fitted and no leaks.  :)

Great service from Omicron. Glad I didn't get the tank direct from Italy.