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Title: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: John B on 29 November, 2015, 06:10:22 PM
Should be interesting.........

http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/dv8bn2/car-sos--series-3---8-lancia-reborn


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: Parisien on 29 November, 2015, 06:19:22 PM
Cheers for heads up, wonder if it belongs or will belong to an LMC member?!


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Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: lancialulu on 29 November, 2015, 10:29:53 PM
members cars used in support......


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: RobD on 30 November, 2015, 10:26:26 AM
I quite like car SOS but having restored/recommissioned a number of old vehicles over the years I'm afraid I'd take some convincing about the thoroughness of the work which is claimed to be being carried out. I'm sure plenty on here will agree.
Whilst many of the cases they bring are clearly worthy causes, one or two of the recipients of the free restoration job seem to be quite well-heeled and not in any particular need of charity. I couldn't help thinking the family of the Daimler Dart owner had called SOS in order to ensure that when the old boy slipped his mortal coil they would have a valuable old car to inherit ! Call me a cynic... ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: stanley sweet on 30 November, 2015, 10:31:59 AM
I enjoy it, especially that lovely little Alfa last week, but the 'handovers' are now becoming slightly farcical. If your family tell you that your car has to be moved somewhere else for a while, you are then interviewed about your hobby and the conversation gets around to cars, then you meet a vicar or win a trip to a car museum, I would visit your doctor for a check up.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: RobD on 30 November, 2015, 11:57:41 AM
I've seen Fuzz filling his car up at my local garage, I believe he's a local lad although I don't know him personally.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: ncundy on 30 November, 2015, 01:55:13 PM
I've saw him quite a few times years ago; he was the drummer in Pop Will Eat Itself who were big on the Indy scene in the late 80's early '90's. Still tours I think.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: RobD on 30 November, 2015, 02:03:00 PM
He went on to play with the Wonderstuff after the original drummer was killed in a motorcycle accident. Could  this be the start of a full blown thread hijack?  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: Jay on 30 November, 2015, 02:24:21 PM
Itís an Ok programme, although they used to show a lot more of actual carís restro in the early series. I think the work they do, seems to be to high standard, some of the cars they do take right back. But itís Tim Shaw and his producer lead antics that really grates on me, for that reason I find it hard to watch nowdays.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: stanley sweet on 30 November, 2015, 05:03:04 PM
Yes, it's Tim's antics that are time-wasting. Obviously the restoration work is highly compressed for the programme. Last week he was told no Alfa body panels in under 5 weeks and yet miraculously they appeared without explanation. Fuzz's standards seem high and I imagine he's very good on a job given the normal time he needs. I looked up his website once and he welcomes owners to come in and help and learn about their cars. Be good to have someone like him local. I get the impression he wouldn't just do work for the sake of it.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: frankxhv773t on 30 November, 2015, 07:51:07 PM
Being a television show I suspect the neediness of the owner sometimes takes slightly second place to presenting an interesting car. That said, the show is infinitely less cringe worthy than Wheeler Dealers. I really can't take seriously their so called knowledgeable purchasers who say what fine condition the car is in post restoration whilst ignoring the fact that the components underneath are caked in rust and dirt.

(Somehow I still can't resist watching though.)

Frank T


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: HPEHF on 01 December, 2015, 01:13:51 PM
Manning the LMC stand at the recent NEC show for the weekend and being near the live stage, saw both Tim and Fuzz walk by. it looked like Tim was there for the day when they gave the Nissan Skyline back whilst Fuzz was there for the weekend.

Tim looked the right diva with an entourage (including having a spot light on him) as he went past whilst Fuzz walked by on his own. Ant Anstead from The Love of Cars and Edd China also walked by unaccompanied a few times on there own.

Guy Martin came onto the stand and looked at Steve Pilgrims Integrale, but I was talking to someone with my back to him, and was only told as he walked off the stand towards the live stage.

Regards

Simon
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Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: Parisien on 09 December, 2015, 06:42:00 PM
A reminder that this is on at 9pm tonight on More 4


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Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: John B on 09 December, 2015, 10:37:27 PM
A reminder that this is on at 9pm tonight on More 4
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.........or if like me you missed it, and not being able to access More 4 +1 on Filmon here in Italy, it will be repeated on Sunday evening.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 10 December, 2015, 07:02:54 AM
I really enjoyed it, though I don't think Tim's gooning around adds anything at all. I hadn't realised that a couple of LMC members feature during the Zagato interlude.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: lancialulu on 10 December, 2015, 09:50:12 AM
I hadn't realised that a couple of LMC members feature during the Zagato interlude.
Wouldn't be doing my press job then! I have yet to see it as was out last night but Peter and Colin should be thanked as filming was not at a very pleasant time of year.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: stanley sweet on 10 December, 2015, 10:23:37 AM
The rivetted sills were a bit of a shocker. That's another reason I'm loathe to change cars - at least I know mine, foibles and all.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: RobD on 10 December, 2015, 02:36:00 PM
Great to see the racous little Competizione out on the road, if only the editor had left a bit more footage of that in the final cut and a bit less of Tim Whatisface farting about pretending to make brake pipes...


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: Parisien on 10 December, 2015, 03:22:41 PM
Just watched it.........loved it, loved the story, loved the Lancisti he encountered (the competizione was fabulous, Flaminia sport was off the scale!) loved the revealing of the quite lengthy list of bodges (of the owners doing?...it was indeed a death trap!!!!), loved the colour, the final outcome and drive.

Loved less...the pseudo-humourish presenter, the lack of detail/time on film shown of the rebuild, an overview of time spent on doing the restoration and just how much did he pay over for the rebuilt Dutch sourced 1.8 engine?

Dave in Leciester......who supplied some parts and the owner of Flaminia and the owner of the competizione, great to see, what did they think of show and how their involvement was portrayed?

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Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: stanley sweet on 10 December, 2015, 03:58:35 PM
Yes - a freshly rebuilt engine from Vere Lancia would be quite eye watering I should imagine. I loved the colour - the only thing I didn't like were the same coloured wheels. Would that have been as original? I think I would have preferred cream wheels. It was almost as if there was some paint left over................

Tim is starting to ruin it for me a bit these days. Having no idea where he'd sprung from, I Googled him. He doesn't have a very good track record, having been sacked from radio stations for controversy. The best bit was his wife selling his £25,000 Lotus Esprit as a 50p 'Buy It Now' on Ebay after he'd annoyed her.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: Parisien on 10 December, 2015, 08:36:55 PM
http://www.verelancia.com/

A mere Ä12000 for an engine.........thats just for a  1300cc Fulvia engine.

1300HC   
1300 standard unit rebuild with High Compression pistons running on 35 mm carburettors* appr. 115+hp 12,000 euro, standard radiator, rebuild copper 400 euro,
standard exhaust system 250 euro   

1604cc   
80 x 80 mm bore x stroke 1604 cc within 1300 housing, with HC pistons, new conrods, new cranckshaft, cradle running on new 40mm Webers on a secondary manifold appr. 140hp 16,000 euro, uprated radiator, copper 450 euro, spaghetti manifold 4>2>1 in inox 975 euro, end pipes and silencers in inox 650 euro.

1584HC   
1600 S2 engine rebuild with HC pistons on used conrods and cranckshaft, running on 42 mm Solex carburettors* appr. 135hp 16,000 euro, uprated radiator copper 450 euro, spaghetti manifold 4>2>1 975 euro, end pipes and silencers inox 650 euro   

1584+cc   
1600 S2 engine rebuild with new HC pistons on new conrods and a new cranckshaft, running on 40/45/48mm Webers on a single manifold appr. 155hp 18,500 euro. Uprated radiator copper 450 euro, spaghetti manifold 4>2>1 in inox 975 euro, end pipes and silencers in inox 650 euro.



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Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: the.cern on 10 December, 2015, 08:37:44 PM
Yes - a freshly rebuilt engine from Vere Lancia would be quite eye watering I should imagine. I loved the colour - the only thing I didn't like were the same coloured wheels. Would that have been as original? I think I would have preferred cream wheels. It was almost as if there was some paint left over................

Tim is starting to ruin it for me a bit these days. Having no idea where he'd sprung from, I Googled him. He doesn't have a very good track record, having been sacked from radio stations for controversy. The best bit was his wife selling his £25,000 Lotus Esprit as a 50p 'Buy It Now' on Ebay after he'd annoyed her.

I am with you 100%


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: lancialulu on 11 December, 2015, 07:40:02 AM
It seemed the wheels were that colour when they picked the car up but the should be cream I think. Going by the list of bodges Fuzz uncovered I am not surprised that the wheels would have been painted back in the day of initial restauration as easier to do than repair the rusty body....I am surprised that the Flavia consortium could not offer up an appropriate engine as the later 2000 litre does not even fit that car
Yes - a freshly rebuilt engine from Vere Lancia would be quite eye watering I should imagine. I loved the colour - the only thing I didn't like were the same coloured wheels. Would that have been as original? I think I would have preferred cream wheels. It was almost as if there was some paint left over................

Tim is starting to ruin it for me a bit these days. Having no idea where he'd sprung from, I Googled him. He doesn't have a very good track record, having been sacked from radio stations for controversy. The best bit was his wife selling his £25,000 Lotus Esprit as a 50p 'Buy It Now' on Ebay after he'd annoyed her.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: Justin McArdle on 11 December, 2015, 02:32:25 PM
Hi Tim

We should contact Derek (can you get his details from the program producers?) and get him to sign up for LMC and the Flavia 2000 consortium.
The old photo they showed during had Derek with a blue 2000HF Coupe - could he be a serial Flavia man??

I wasn't personally 100% keen on the colour of the Flavia and the wheels most definitely should have been white/cream. Having watched the program again last night it does look like the wheels were previously painted red but basic research would have pointed them in the right direction. Also, the boot was missing the Flavia badge (anal, I know!!).
I was surprised that the producers didn't track down the Flavia Consortium or, for that matter, Omicron.
Great shame that they had to rush things though I suppose that's the nature of the program.

Anyhow, very pleased for Derek - an absolute dream come through. I hope he is enjoying the Flavia.


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: stanley sweet on 11 December, 2015, 03:56:45 PM
Are MGB sills a known substitute among Flavia owners or are repro ones available anyway had they researched it?


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: lancialulu on 11 December, 2015, 05:18:16 PM
Hi Tim

We should contact Derek (can you get his details from the program producers?) and get him to sign up for LMC and the Flavia 2000 consortium.
The old photo they showed during had Derek with a blue 2000HF Coupe - could he be a serial Flavia man??

I wasn't personally 100% keen on the colour of the Flavia and the wheels most definitely should have been white/cream. Having watched the program again last night it does look like the wheels were previously painted red but basic research would have pointed them in the right direction. Also, the boot was missing the Flavia badge (anal, I know!!).
I was surprised that the producers didn't track down the Flavia Consortium or, for that matter, Omicron.
Great shame that they had to rush things though I suppose that's the nature of the program.

Anyhow, very pleased for Derek - an absolute dream come through. I hope he is enjoying the Flavia.
Justin I will try but the producers were very disfunctional. If you heard Tim about 1/4 way in he was on the phone to Elizabeth (omicron) who said they didnt get much call for engines as most owners had their own.....

Stan, i have just had sills replaced on my vignale and they had to be custom made. The steel is much thicker than standard (i am pleased to note) due to the convertible body structure. Not sure if other Flavias had same gauge of steel but MGB cills would not have cut it!


Title: Re: Car SOS Lancia reborn
Post by: Justin McArdle on 11 December, 2015, 06:09:18 PM
Hi Tim,  you are right indeed - I was misled by the Zagato Lancia website on his PC when he made the call.  I assume  Omicron didn't have any Flavia engines in stock then!