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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: Paul Greenway on 08 November, 2015, 01:56:15 PM



Title: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Paul Greenway on 08 November, 2015, 01:56:15 PM
Hi all,

It's been 16 months but I now have another Lancia, I have just purchased a Fulvia Sport Zagato 1.6 from Germany and hope to have it in the UK within the next couple of weeks.

Although in great all round condition with many new parts fitted, it requires a service- it is plucking a bit low down and the fuel seems a little rich so just needs the carbs setting properly, plus it possibly requires 4 new shocks. It also requires f&R seat belts (peace of mind) and then an MOT and preparation for UK registration.

Has anyone any recommendations as to who's best to sort this lot at a reasonable cost and ideally (but not necessarily) in the North West?

Cheers,

Paul.


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Davidb on 11 November, 2015, 12:03:06 PM
There is Classicarco  in Walkden near Bolton.  I have not used them personally but they have been around a long time.
Probably worth a phone call.

www.classicarco.com

David


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: lancialulu on 11 November, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Speak to James Parry?


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Mr Dunamis on 20 November, 2015, 06:30:31 PM
Ferdi's Garage in Lytham St Annes is very good. He recently  changed my upper wishbone ball joints, rubber things under the front leaf spring and various other bits and bobs. Very reasonable and Tony his assistant has a couple of Flavias. Ferdi is an Alfa man but works on anything; he also has some Lancia specialist tools.


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Paul Greenway on 20 November, 2015, 08:10:11 PM
Thanks for all your recommendations guys.


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Paul Greenway on 25 November, 2015, 09:36:47 PM

Car arrived this afternoon- no problems, however no-one seems to want to service it- they've all gone quiet!

I will try an independent local garage that does appear to work on older cars- I have seen Alfa 1750GTV, BMW 2500, MGB GT, Saab 96 and Triumph TR6 there in recent times besides more modern stuff.


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: roddy on 26 November, 2015, 10:03:11 AM
Hello Paul.  Congratulations on the new arrival - looks good.  Surely part of the enjoyment of classic car ownership is 'getting your hands dirty'.  It is not rocket science.  Well, okay, wear latex gloves, box of 100 for about 4.  DIY means you can pick the quality of product you want, instead of paying garage overheads/mechanics wages etc.  Get a full synthetic 10W60 oil, Mahle OC67 filter from your local motor factors, and don't make a mess on the garage floor.

Only kidding, but consider it, and just ask questions - there is a lot of Fulvia experience out here.

Regards - Roddy


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: stanley sweet on 26 November, 2015, 10:34:18 AM
That does look very nice. Hope you find a good garage to look after it. I'm at the lower end of mechanical skills but apart from the usual oil changes I've also in the past replaced the front shock absorbers, radiator etc. Anything that's fairly easy to get at and doesn't need a specialist tools I will attempt. Rear shocks are harder to access so I let a garage with a lift fit those. You know it's been done properly, save a bit of money and learn a lot about the car too. Serious electrics is still just black magic to me though.


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Davidb on 26 November, 2015, 12:01:56 PM

I would agree with Roddy.
If you wish and since we are both in the north west I will be happy to provide help/assistance/advice. Let me know.

David


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Paul Greenway on 26 November, 2015, 05:06:06 PM
Thanks for all the enthusiasm guys, I'll see what demons (if any)the MOT reveals first. As long as it's ready for next spring I am happy to accept advice and do some mild tinkering myself, although like you Stanley I am at the lower end of the mechanical spectrum and I don't want to bodge anything.

These are the jobs that I understand need resolving first-

1)       Register with HMRC
2)       Insure- (Who's best for Fulvias?)
3)       MOT
4)       Possibly replace all 4 shocks (I think these are the originals)
5)       Repair short circuit on interior lighting + door (not absolutely necessary but will frustrate me until done)
6)       Replace brake booster vacuum hose (there is currently a non standard hose fitted that looks out of character)
7)       Replace engine ventilation hose (there is currently a non standard hose fitted that looks out of character)
8)       Adjust/repair throttle valve bearings
9)       Dust cover to drive shaft on right requires renewal
10)      Brake check (feels spongy) 
11)      General service

All advice greatly appreciated.

Paul



Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Richard Fridd on 26 November, 2015, 06:08:35 PM
Very nice. As a precaution, perhaps refurbish the oil filler baffle and it's contents(sometimes a rusty mess)


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: lancialulu on 26 November, 2015, 06:16:26 PM
Paul

Looks nice ....

but does the service history show any mechanical recommissioning such as new brake pipes engine mounts anti roll bar bushes, radiator pipes fan belts i.e anything that is rubber should be given a good look at and generally replaced (esp brake pipes). I would spend out on all the main rubbery bits then you know you have a sound car in the brakes, suspension and engine and carb mountings departments.

Shock absorbers do not need replacing unless they show signs of leaking or do not damp when bounced on the front or rear end, except maybe if you wanted a firmer ride from say Konis.

Re vacuum hose there are not may hoses around that can take vacuum. Ordinary hoses will collapse over time.

What is the problem with the throttle valve bearings? I assume you have the 42 Solex's fitted? Is the car high mileage ? These carbs can only really be refurbished in the throttle spindle area by sending away to a specialist (in Italy).

These Sports can go for a long time if the above is adhered to.

I would change the antifreeze too when changing the hoses and would recommend silicon classic look ones.

Hope this helps and sorry you are not more local to me.

Tim



Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: frankxhv773t on 26 November, 2015, 07:34:56 PM
What a beauty. You are going to have such fun.

Do you need to consider relocating the footwear to avoid picking up scratches on the paintwork? (I'm just jealous really because I can't for the life of me get my family to keep their boots and shoes tidy.) 

Frank T


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: the.cern on 26 November, 2015, 08:21:50 PM
I looked at the line of footwear and had much the same thought Frank. In my experience you can never have enough room in a garage and unnecessary things like footwear must be the first to be cleared out!!!!

Frank, I have good news, your problem will get resolved ......... but not until everyone has grown up and left home!!!!

That is a lovely looking car and Paul, I am sure you will get a huge amount of enjoyment out of it.

                                              Andy


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: davidwheeler on 26 November, 2015, 09:16:34 PM
All my Lancias are with Adrian Flux, agreed value, good recovery, excellent service and very good prices.


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Paul Greenway on 26 November, 2015, 09:46:29 PM
Paul

Looks nice ....

but does the service history show any mechanical recommissioning such as new brake pipes engine mounts anti roll bar bushes, radiator pipes fan belts i.e anything that is rubber should be given a good look at and generally replaced (esp brake pipes). I would spend out on all the main rubbery bits then you know you have a sound car in the brakes, suspension and engine and carb mountings departments.

Shock absorbers do not need replacing unless they show signs of leaking or do not damp when bounced on the front or rear end, except maybe if you wanted a firmer ride from say Konis.

Re vacuum hose there are not may hoses around that can take vacuum. Ordinary hoses will collapse over time.

What is the problem with the throttle valve bearings? I assume you have the 42 Solex's fitted? Is the car high mileage ? These carbs can only really be refurbished in the throttle spindle area by sending away to a specialist (in Italy).

These Sports can go for a long time if the above is adhered to.

I would change the antifreeze too when changing the hoses and would recommend silicon classic look ones.

Hope this helps and sorry you are not more local to me.

Tim



Tim,

Thanks for your comments, yes all the brake pipes are newish (end '13), radiator pipe is new, most other rubber parts have been replaced, leads, plugs, filters all look new, the hoses mentioned are new but look naff, don't know what type of carbs are fitted but on test it was a little bit plucky until warm and then seemed to run rich?

The car has done 81,000km, so 51,000 miles which is not bad in 44 years.

Frank/Andy,

You should have seen the state of the garage (and the footwear) on Sunday morning before the big clean & the four estate car trips to the tip!

David,

Yes Adrian Flux have so far returned the most competitive quote and I believe a phone call to them will reduce the quote further still so thanks for that.

Regards all,

Paul.


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: lancialulu on 26 November, 2015, 10:38:05 PM
Paul

Thats sounds excellent! Just a tune up then! Low mileage Solexes are excellent carbs are respond well to a rebuild to clean out any muck and then tune quite easily.

Tim


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: fay66 on 27 November, 2015, 12:02:43 AM
Paul,
It looks just great and working on it yourself will give you great satisfaction of a job well done, even the simple things.
I insure "Fay" with Hagertys, very good ,very reasonable, they are enthusiasts and don't insure moderns, while being aimed at Classics.

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: stanley sweet on 27 November, 2015, 10:47:16 AM
You have a nice sized garage there. Always been a dream of mine to have a garage just big enough to have space all around the car to take wheels off etc. Not happened so far and I don't expect it too any time soon. That makes a big difference because you can take your time working on it and not have to worry about getting it back together to get it back inside before rain comes etc. Get yourself a soft breathable cover too to keep the garage dust off.


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: davidwheeler on 27 November, 2015, 07:44:20 PM
Paul

Looks nice ....

but does the service history show any mechanical recommissioning such as new brake pipes engine mounts anti roll bar bushes, radiator pipes fan belts i.e anything that is rubber should be given a good look at and generally replaced (esp brake pipes). I would spend out on all the main rubbery bits then you know you have a sound car in the brakes, suspension and engine and carb mountings departments.

Shock absorbers do not need replacing unless they show signs of leaking or do not damp when bounced on the front or rear end, except maybe if you wanted a firmer ride from say Konis.

Re vacuum hose there are not may hoses around that can take vacuum. Ordinary hoses will collapse over time.

What is the problem with the throttle valve bearings? I assume you have the 42 Solex's fitted? Is the car high mileage ? These carbs can only really be refurbished in the throttle spindle area by sending away to a specialist (in Italy).

These Sports can go for a long time if the above is adhered to.

I would change the antifreeze too when changing the hoses and would recommend silicon classic look ones.

Hope this helps and sorry you are not more local to me.

Tim



Try Omicron for carb rebushing, they have done some for me very well.


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: davidwheeler on 27 November, 2015, 07:46:47 PM
Agreed value on mine is 25,000.   Adrian Fluz (who use Hagerty's) are perfectly happy with that and mine is not as shiny as yours!


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: frankxhv773t on 27 November, 2015, 09:39:22 PM
The trouble with a nice large garage is resisting the temptation to fill it with spares.

Frank T


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: fay66 on 28 November, 2015, 12:36:27 AM
There speaks the voice of experience ;D

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: the.cern on 28 November, 2015, 09:07:07 AM
The trouble with a nice large garage is resisting the temptation to fill it with spares.

Frank T

Why resist???????


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: lancialulu on 28 November, 2015, 12:03:54 PM
The trouble with a nice large garage is resisting the temptation to fill it with spares.

Frank T
or another car, bike etc. parkinsons law....


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Paul Greenway on 28 November, 2015, 03:40:40 PM
It's amazing how much space you can find in a garage (or shed) when you have an incentive to do so!


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: frankxhv773t on 28 November, 2015, 05:22:24 PM
Can I have another Lancia to give me an incentive?

Frank T


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: Paul Greenway on 28 November, 2015, 06:39:20 PM

Exactly Frank!


Title: Re: Fulvia Servicing
Post by: the.cern on 28 November, 2015, 08:18:26 PM
Can I have another Lancia to give me an incentive?

Frank T

Of course you can Frank, just do not let your wife know that it was I who said so!!!!