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Model Technical and Interest => Appia => Topic started by: John B on 27 July, 2015, 04:26:06 PM



Title: Brake fluid compatability
Post by: John B on 27 July, 2015, 04:26:06 PM
I have a label on top of the brake fluid reservoir saying......
"Use only type SABIF P2 SAE 70 RI"

On my bottles of Dot 4 fluid there is no reference to any of these numbers.
Not knowing what the previous owner may have topped it up with will it be safe to add a few drops of Dot 4?




Title: Re: Brake fluid compatability
Post by: simonandjuliet on 27 July, 2015, 05:58:07 PM
I use straight forward DOT 4 in the Appia, but then it is a new system , no old fluid at all.

If you are at all worried you could just flush the system with new clean fluid anyway, very easy on the Appia , as you know.


Title: Re: Brake fluid compatability
Post by: lancianut666 on 27 July, 2015, 06:28:35 PM
Can you buy anything other than Dot 4?


Title: Re: Brake fluid compatability
Post by: the.cern on 27 July, 2015, 08:01:56 PM
Can you buy anything other than Dot 4?

Dot 5, but that is the silicon variety. There are arguments about whether it is necessary to remove all traces of non 5 fluid before introducing it or whether it may be introduced in a topping up scenario.

Personally John, I would flush out any old fluid with Dot 4 and continue to use just that. If  you are unsure as to what is in there at the moment I assume you do not know how old it is and under those circumstances total replacement is the safest way forward.

                                          Andy


Title: Re: Brake fluid compatability
Post by: John B on 27 July, 2015, 09:17:25 PM

Can you buy anything other than Dot 4?

Dot 5, but that is the silicon variety. There are arguments about whether it is necessary to remove all traces of non 5 fluid before introducing it or whether it may be introduced in a topping up scenario.

Personally John, I would flush out any old fluid with Dot 4 and continue to use just that. If  you are unsure as to what is in there at the moment I assume you do not know how old it is and under those circumstances total replacement is the safest way forward.

                                          Andy
I have a friend here with a couple of old Triumphs who only uses Dot 5 because he says "It does not affect paintwork if accidently spilled on it"

Thanks Simon and Andy for you response......of course you are both correct that a system flush is the way to go and I
will be doing that but hoping to delay until the car is off the road for winter.
Over the past 9 months or so since I bought the car the level in the reservoir has dropped a few millimetres so chances are I need to replace wheel cylinder seals etc........memo to self - contact Appia Consortium!



Title: Re: Brake fluid compatability
Post by: fay66 on 27 July, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
In 60 years of driving & owning cars I can't ever remember brake fluid stripping paint unless you didn't clean it off, Minis were a prime example as it was nearly impossible to top up the M/Cylinder Reservoir without spilling fluid, but it was only if it had been left that there was a problem.
I've always used Dot 4 with My Dunlop Brakes and it's never been a problem, for 1600 HF with higher performance the Dot 5 might be worthwhile, although I think Dot 5 has other benefits, but it would certainly be beneficial to go along with Andy's recommendation of total replacement with fresh Dot 4.


Brian
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Title: Re: Brake fluid compatability
Post by: lancialulu on 28 July, 2015, 08:33:43 AM
Dot 5 does have higher boiling point but I still lost my brakes on the last bend of a very fast descent down Stelvio. ( fluvia 1600 sport with dot 5).

Other benefit of silicon is it is not hydroscopic which may be of interest if cars are stored in occasionally high humidity .....


Title: Re: Brake fluid compatability
Post by: nistri on 03 August, 2015, 09:14:56 AM
Dodgy seals in the master cylinder, Tim?