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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: fay66 on 13 March, 2015, 12:28:01 AM



Title: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: fay66 on 13 March, 2015, 12:28:01 AM
I want to respray my steel wheels on my 2c and have been looking at a German site, they only show one for series 1 HF  but can't confirm if this is the colour I need.
Do all series 1 steel wheels have the same colour?

http://www.spraydosen-shop.de/aerosol-spray-can-lancia-ruote-hf-avorio-ruote-fulvia-hf-uni-one-coat


Brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: Richard Fridd on 13 March, 2015, 09:03:22 AM
Buttermilk is one colour isn't it? Will you have to take the tyres off though?. There used to be a paper masking device available to avoid overspray.


Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: DavidLaver on 13 March, 2015, 11:39:55 AM
The two colours I've heard of being used for wheels are Rover Arum White and Ford Alpacca Beige. 

When I did a trailer refurb I took the opportunity to do a test (Halfords rattle cans) and tried both. They were both very similar and both looked right.  From memory I liked the Arum as warmer and more creamy.

David


Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: fay66 on 13 March, 2015, 11:41:15 PM
Buttermilk is one colour isn't it? Will you have to take the tyres off though?. There used to be a paper masking device available to avoid overspray.
I recently managed to buy a pair of Fulvia 1216cc Coupe wheels which like the 2c don't have the trim ring mounting bosses, although the 2c wheel also has pegs on the inside for wheel weights, these look as though the original wheel weights had a hole in the centre, and the weights would have been placed over the peg and held with a circlip of some sort ( or so I presume), as these have never been used the 1216 wheels are ideal, the wheels are away at Pristine wheels at Woburn Sands being painted in primer for 20 a wheel, I did ask about having them colour matched and sprayed, but the quote of 55 per wheel put me off so I decided I topcoat them myself and then put new tyres on these, the other two wheels I'll just have to mask up.
Brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: fay66 on 13 March, 2015, 11:43:55 PM
The two colours I've heard of being used for wheels are Rover Arum White and Ford Alpacca Beige. 

When I did a trailer refurb I took the opportunity to do a test (Halfords rattle cans) and tried both. They were both very similar and both looked right.  From memory I liked the Arum as warmer and more creamy.

David

Thank you David for your research ! I was considering the Rover Arum White so I think I'll run with that rather than take a chance on the Fulvia HF Colour
Brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: DavidLaver on 14 March, 2015, 12:04:45 AM
I think it was a Don Cross tip originally.

David


Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 14 March, 2015, 08:24:29 AM
See http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=7fc97ed86ea36bb73527d86187cd22b6&topic=1708.60
about page 7.

''The wheel colour is Ford Alpaca Beige, Ford numbers CT,  MAT, or 2B.  ICI code NT 70.''


Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: fay66 on 14 March, 2015, 10:19:45 PM
See http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=7fc97ed86ea36bb73527d86187cd22b6&topic=1708.60
about page 7.

''The wheel colour is Ford Alpaca Beige, Ford numbers CT,  MAT, or 2B.  ICI code NT 70.''

Thanks Ade,
I know that we'd had this conversation previously and I wrote the information down, but when I looked I couldn't find it, I hadn't realised it was that long ago, with circumstances being what they have been the last few years I just haven't got around with repainting them.

brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: DavidLaver on 14 March, 2015, 11:53:00 PM

Page 5 - Nov 1st and 2nd 2009.  Where has that time gone...


Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: frankxhv773t on 16 March, 2015, 01:31:07 PM
Brian, if you wanted to colour match them yourself you could try A.R.Davies at 1 Royston Road, Baldock. My son's old employers used them for custom paint colours.

Frank


Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: fay66 on 16 March, 2015, 05:52:48 PM
Brian, if you wanted to colour match them yourself you could try A.R.Davies at 1 Royston Road, Baldock. My son's old employers used them for custom paint colours.

Frank

Thanks Frank, I've ordered 1 400ml spray can of the Ford Alpaca Beige CT, if that's not near enough I'll try A.R.Davies.
Brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: fay66 on 22 March, 2015, 01:29:23 PM
I think I'm going to take one of my wheels to A.R Davies in Baldock ::)
I've just sprayed my two wheels and Alpacca is nothing like the colour of my wheels on "Fay", as it's a definite beige and far too creamy while my wheels are more of an off white, when she was restored in 1997-1999 the wheels were resprayed but I was given to understand that the spare was the original Colour and the other four were painted to match the spare.
OH well by the time I'm finished they'll be plenty of paint on them!
The spray can of Alpacca was 400ml, which was sufficient to give a decent coat on the inside face of the wheel, a decent coat over the tyre recess, and a couple of good coats on the face of the wheel, on both wheels, with a little left over.
Any thoughs on using a clear laquer over the paint on the wheels, as the pack I bought of Alpacca came with a tin of clear laquer?

Brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: GG on 22 March, 2015, 03:57:39 PM
take a look - posted before:

http://blog.lanciainfo.com/?p=12


Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: DavidLaver on 22 March, 2015, 10:58:24 PM
Just to record it here also, the recommendation (for B20s) is:

Summer Beige, Nissan RF, 1994-2006, or Glasurit SM 003.50

I was interested in the comment near the end about a yellowish tone on a 60's Fulvia and it sounds like that's the colour Omicron matched.  Anyone know what the match to that might be?

David


Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: fay66 on 22 March, 2015, 11:26:36 PM
take a look - posted before:

http://blog.lanciainfo.com/?p=12
Thanks Geoff.

Brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: fay66 on 23 March, 2015, 09:38:28 AM
I think I'm going to take one of my wheels to A.R Davies in Baldock ::)
I've just sprayed my two wheels and Alpacca is nothing like the colour of my wheels on "Fay", as it's a definite beige and far too creamy while my wheels are more of an off white, when she was restored in 1997-1999 the wheels were resprayed but I was given to understand that the spare was the original Colour and the other four were painted to match the spare.
OH well by the time I'm finished they'll be plenty of paint on them!
The spray can of Alpacca was 400ml, which was sufficient to give a decent coat on the inside face of the wheel, a decent coat over the tyre recess, and a couple of good coats on the face of the wheel, on both wheels, with a little left over.
Any thoughs on using a clear laquer over the paint on the wheels, as the pack I bought of Alpacca came with a tin of clear laquer?

Brian
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Talk about the things that have happened that you don't know about ::)
I haven't bought any car spray paint for a few years for a few years but since I bought my last can it seems that now you get a base coat as you do with Metallic and a clear lacquer to give it the gloss and to protect the base coat, I keep fairly well up to date so when did this pass me by?
Brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: stanley sweet on 23 March, 2015, 10:02:57 AM
Is this because it's possibly two pack for health reasons? Could be wrong but from what I gather with two pack, the paint goes on fairly matt and it's the laquer that gives it the gloss and protection. That's just me guessing though.


Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: fay66 on 23 March, 2015, 10:19:06 AM
Is this because it's possibly two pack for health reasons? Could be wrong but from what I gather with two pack, the paint goes on fairly matt and it's the laquer that gives it the gloss and protection. That's just me guessing though.
Stan,
If Alan Cooper hadn't explain about this to me last night, I'd have panicked this morning to find my wheel paint had dried matt :o
Still best not to breath the stuff as it's pretty potent.

Brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia Wheel paint
Post by: fay66 on 17 April, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
Two wheels now repainted and fitted with Dunlop Street Response 165x70x14 which chugga reckons will give near enough a correct speedo, in fact it's 2mph fast at 4000 rpm reading 62 mph instead of 60mph.
A.R. Davies came up trumps with the paint colour after an hours worth of comparing colour charts.
Allowing for the fact that my old wheel painted would have faded after 16 years it's more or less spot on.

It was Fiat Avorio 228 which also has a Lancia equivalent with a touch of yellow, so Lancia 228 Avorio, Lesonal Base, mixing Ratio: Y shade,
Anyone at Goodwood tomorrow can have a look and see what they think as the rear wheels are still in the old colour.

Brian
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