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Title: 1600 hf colours
Post by: chugga boom on 27 January, 2013, 09:48:32 PM
trying to decide on a colour for my hf,  its origionally rosso york which i'm not the worlds greatest fan of, dont want to do it rosso corsa as most 1600 fulvia's are this colour even though i personally think they look fantastic in that colour, so what else is standard on these cars? just to help i've ruled out  so far
rosso corsa
rosso york
white
silver
logshomps bronze
any ideas?? saw a stunning dark blue 160 a few yrs ago at an agm restored by Chris Payne, dont know the colour though


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Parisien on 27 January, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
Was it Blu Lancia...code 1332 by Lechler?

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Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: rogerelias on 27 January, 2013, 09:55:31 PM
Done mine in Ford Venetian red, as I am not a purist, and you can get the paint anywhere :o


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Parisien on 27 January, 2013, 09:57:55 PM
Link to Geoffs site with lots of likely and correct Lancia colours James

http://blog.lanciainfo.com/?p=247


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Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: chugga boom on 27 January, 2013, 10:11:15 PM
Frank i have no idea what the colour was, Roger if i was going red then i would do the same as its far easier to match however i've dismissed red alltogether, looks fantastic and imo is probably the best colour for a hf but you know me, i want to be different  :D


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Derek Moore on 27 January, 2013, 10:30:39 PM
Not normally my favourite colour for a car, and I know you've discounted it but Fulvia's definitely look best in White. I had a beauty, wish I hadn't sold it!

Regards
Derek Moore


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: chugga boom on 27 January, 2013, 10:42:23 PM
Agreed, all the colours i've dismissed look good on fulvia's however i'm trying to do it something a little different, one of my favourite s3 colours is portifino blue however this was nota 1600 option (to my knowlage) i was just curious if anyone had a colour chart/brochure for the 1.6's as i only have for the 1.3


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: fay66 on 28 January, 2013, 12:59:47 AM
If your not worried about original colour have a look at Doncaster Grey of my 2c Berlina, dark but not a blue and it's a very nice colour, although I don't think it was used on Coupe.

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: bruciebonuz on 28 January, 2013, 09:53:48 AM
I like the orange that Ed Levin's Fanalone is painted....

http://fulviacam.phanfare.com/2862194_3126384#imageID=49976369


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: simonandjuliet on 28 January, 2013, 11:25:09 AM
Why stick to one colour ?

Go nautical and have the left side red and the right green
Go safari - black and white stripes
Go Dudsey - spots
Recreate the Fulvia model - gold and black with painted on snow and spare tyre and ski sticks on the roof ......



Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Neil on 28 January, 2013, 12:54:43 PM
Fulvia colour chart attached, also my car just painted in Lancia Blue, modern water based/lacquer paint, delivered home on Friday.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: ncundy on 28 January, 2013, 02:00:32 PM
How about Nero??

if you're a metaller, Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden fame had a black Fanalone.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Tim Ray on 28 January, 2013, 04:26:31 PM
Hello
Can someone answer a question that has long puzzled me. I bought my 1972 Fulvia Coupe via Italy. The paintwork looked largely original but had a laquer coat. Looking at Neil's chart,does it say that Lancia Bleu is available with a laquer coat at an additional cost .If this is the case, then that is the colour my car was painted.I always thought that Lancia Bleu was a solid colour.
I had the car repainted here in France about 3 years ago and found that Dupont Baltic/Twighlight Blue was an exact match. The sprayer wanted to use solvent based paint but I could not find anyone here to supply it, only water based. I was able to source the solvent based paint together with the laquer, hardener etc. in the UK, at approx. 40% less than French prices. Only wish I had bought all the consumables in the UK as well.
Regards
Tim


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Parisien on 28 January, 2013, 04:40:00 PM
Yeah, even household paints are marked up horrifically in France..

Do you have contact details for the paint you sourced?

P


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Dilambdaman on 28 January, 2013, 05:56:17 PM
I like the orange that Ed Levin's Fanalone is painted....

http://fulviacam.phanfare.com/2862194_3126384#imageID=49976369


Many thanks Jonathan, that I think is the orange that Barry Waterhouse's Fanalone was painted and we are tempted to return it to. Any idea of the paint code and who can supply it?

Robin.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: lancialulu on 28 January, 2013, 06:13:07 PM
Is it rosso san siro the competition orange red??

If so Lechler 192 or Lesonal (LS) 10259Z

A good paint shop should be able to mix.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: lancialulu on 28 January, 2013, 06:19:35 PM
or it could be giallo corsa olanda: Lancia 6980034; Max Meyer 1.306.4204; Lechler 36


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: HF_Dave on 28 January, 2013, 06:22:39 PM
I painted my Fulvia white which was the original colour, I as going to change it but I reckon white is not that common especially with a black bonnet. Thanks . David.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: peterbaker on 28 January, 2013, 06:30:27 PM
Black goes down a treat.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: lancialulu on 28 January, 2013, 06:39:16 PM
I painted my Fulvia white which was the original colour, I as going to change it but I reckon white is not that common especially with a black bonnet. Thanks . David.

I (re)painted mine saratoga white which it was originally and looks nice with the "final edition" stripe.....


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 28 January, 2013, 07:05:44 PM
Here's one in giallo corsa olanda. (Dutch racing yellow)


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 28 January, 2013, 07:29:45 PM
Black is a rare colour for Fulvias, especially HFs.
Here's one taken circa 1982.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 28 January, 2013, 07:34:03 PM
To see a picture of Mirabello beige HF go to this page:
http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5639.0


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: rogerelias on 28 January, 2013, 08:45:47 PM
 Roger if i was going red then i would do the same as its far easier to match however i've dismissed red alltogether    I hear Matt Black is in Fashion, or Cammo as a Footballers Bentley :;


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: bruciebonuz on 28 January, 2013, 08:48:18 PM
I like the orange that Ed Levin's Fanalone is painted....

http://fulviacam.phanfare.com/2862194_3126384#imageID=49976369


Many thanks Jonathan, that I think is the orange that Barry Waterhouse's Fanalone was painted and we are tempted to return it to. Any idea of the paint code and who can supply it?

Robin.

I will email Ed and ask him and let you know.



Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Derek Moore on 28 January, 2013, 10:22:23 PM
So, that's narrowed it down then!

I'm getting addicted to this bloody forum. Told myself I wasn't going to add to my sole Lancia, having recently sold my 8.32. Now I'm on the lookout....again!!

Anyone know anything about this : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LANCIA-BETA-1600-Unique-Original-Series-1-Berlina-/290853028244?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item43b8310194

Looks a stunner, never thought I'd be interested, but......


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Parisien on 28 January, 2013, 10:25:11 PM
Great to hear the Lancia siren is working on you....;)

Looks the biz.....whats the normal top dollar on it?

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Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: fay66 on 28 January, 2013, 10:43:30 PM
Great to hear the Lancia siren is working on you....;)

Looks the biz.....whats the normal top dollar on it?

P
If one looks at the 2nd photo, then zoom in on the driver, no doubt he will be recognisable to many of us on here and in the LMC. ;)
Lot of money, but it comes from an excellent stable and is in excellent condition.

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: bruciebonuz on 29 January, 2013, 10:17:00 AM
I like the orange that Ed Levin's Fanalone is painted....

http://fulviacam.phanfare.com/2862194_3126384#imageID=49976369


Many thanks Jonathan, that I think is the orange that Barry Waterhouse's Fanalone was painted and we are tempted to return it to. Any idea of the paint code and who can supply it?

Robin.

I will email Ed and ask him and let you know.


Robin,this from Ed:

My color is part of the Ypsilon "Kaleidos" program from the late '90s. Officially, that orange "Orange", factory code 911. So Glasurit's color code is "LAN 911". I'm sure other manufacturers have the equivalent color, but mine was sprayed with Glasurit 'Line 22' single-stage.



Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: peteracs on 29 January, 2013, 01:17:11 PM
Great to hear the Lancia siren is working on you....;)

Looks the biz.....whats the normal top dollar on it?

P

Looks quite amazing from the photos and with a well known owner, I guess the quality of the write up and car can be assessed. Price wise, as it is likely to be unique in terms of a UK Series 1, mileage and condition, then it is whatever someone is prepared to pay I guess. Normal s2 saloons go for around the 2-3k in decent condition if you can find one.....

Peter


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Tim Ray on 29 January, 2013, 01:20:39 PM
Yeah, even household paints are marked up horrifically in France..

Do you have contact details for the paint you sourced?

P

Hello P
Will contact the supplier just to confirm it's OK to put his details on the forum.
Regards
Tim


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Parisien on 29 January, 2013, 02:07:45 PM
Thanks Tim...or if you need to pm me

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Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Dilambdaman on 29 January, 2013, 05:50:04 PM
I like the orange that Ed Levin's Fanalone is painted....

http://fulviacam.phanfare.com/2862194_3126384#imageID=49976369


Many thanks Jonathan, that I think is the orange that Barry Waterhouse's Fanalone was painted and we are tempted to return it to. Any idea of the paint code and who can supply it?

Robin.

I will email Ed and ask him and let you know.


Robin,this from Ed:

My color is part of the Ypsilon "Kaleidos" program from the late '90s. Officially, that orange "Orange", factory code 911. So Glasurit's color code is "LAN 911". I'm sure other manufacturers have the equivalent color, but mine was sprayed with Glasurit 'Line 22' single-stage.



Many thanks Jonathan we will investigate.

Robin.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: bruciebonuz on 29 January, 2013, 06:45:14 PM
I like the orange that Ed Levin's Fanalone is painted....

http://fulviacam.phanfare.com/2862194_3126384#imageID=49976369


Many thanks Jonathan, that I think is the orange that Barry Waterhouse's Fanalone was painted and we are tempted to return it to. Any idea of the paint code and who can supply it?

Robin.

I will email Ed and ask him and let you know.


Robin,this from Ed:

My color is part of the Ypsilon "Kaleidos" program from the late '90s. Officially, that orange "Orange", factory code 911. So Glasurit's color code is "LAN 911". I'm sure other manufacturers have the equivalent color, but mine was sprayed with Glasurit 'Line 22' single-stage.



Many thanks Jonathan we will investigate.

Robin.

No problem - there are a number opf photos of Ed's car here which may be helpful :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kahmed79/3645935308/


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: chugga boom on 11 April, 2013, 08:03:08 AM
what is the name of this colour? anyone got a paint code?


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 11 April, 2013, 08:11:33 AM
Jamaica blue


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: lancialulu on 11 April, 2013, 08:12:27 AM
Its not a 1600HF colour but S1 colour....


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: chugga boom on 11 April, 2013, 08:15:16 AM
thanks guys  :)


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: chugga boom on 31 May, 2013, 02:40:28 PM
after close inspection of my car i've found its origional colour under the layers of various repaints, wait for it.......ORANGE!!! so what orange would it have ben and i presume a special order??


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 31 May, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
Is it the same orange as my post earlier in this thread?


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: chugga boom on 31 May, 2013, 09:59:02 PM
it seems to be a darker orange than the montecarlo colour and not as pink as san siro  ??? I have seen a couple of zagato's on google image's that look similar


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: chugga boom on 13 June, 2013, 09:33:04 AM
after doing some more diggin, pretty sure the colour is rosso corsa, but not rosso corsa like the integrale red, according to my paint surplier there are 3 paint codes for rosso corsa that all ran 1971>75 they are 172 178 179, there are no colour chips or mixing formulars available so i was wondering if anyone had some origional paint mixing chips of the era that i can match the colour too, i can only discribe the colour on this car as like vw mars red that mk1 golfs were painted in or ford sunburst red that mk3 xr3's were painted in, its not orange and its not red, its inbetween, any help grately appriciated


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: DavidLaver on 13 June, 2013, 11:52:23 AM

My Aurelia was matched to Ford Sunburst Red - and after a long time pondering the original blue and period reds and all sorts of modern reds I went with the same again and was delighted with it.  My only complication was that I then had to choose between three tints.  Do they do that to allow for matching to a faded paint?

David


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: chugga boom on 06 February, 2014, 08:38:12 PM
a few more colour choices, anyone know the colour names? or codes


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: stanley sweet on 07 February, 2014, 11:29:26 AM
If I had a bare shell Fulvia I think that is one of my favourite combinations - the dark red with the Torino stripes and blue and yellow HF stickers. It's kind of subdued but a bit menacing at the same time. That's if I wanted to have some Lancia connection. If not, I reckon Aston Zagato metallic racing green would be very tempting. When mine was painted several years ago I went with the colour it already was, Rosso Corsa, as it wasn't a full spray and I didn't want to open the bonnet and see a different coloured engine bay. I must admit it must be hard to have a bare shell and thousands of beautiful colours to choose from. The great thing about Fulvias is that you can paint them grey, blue etc and they look elegant and you can drive them wearing a suit and tie, or you can go for reds, oranges etc and they look like rally cars. You'll have to decide what look you want and that will narrow it down to just a few thousand!. I would think Ferrari Giallo Fly yellow might look pretty good especially if you are having it bumperless etc.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Tim Ray on 07 February, 2014, 11:57:14 AM
What a coincidence with Stan's comments about Aston Martin.
Earlier this week I was talking to a guy in the UK who is restoring a 1600HF and it is soon going to the paint shop. His car is currently painted metallic green which he describes as being from the BMW 2002 series and he is undecided as to which colour to have it resprayed. He likes the green but the car was originally white. Also his Dad had a 1600HF in Mendoza Blue. Decisions, decisions.
Regards
Tim


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: Dilambdaman on 07 February, 2014, 01:23:35 PM
Stan's mention of Ferrari Giallo Fly yellow reminded me of my ex-works 1.3HF which was just that colour when I first saw it. Pye Records had been using it for publicity purposes and had had it sprayed thus. I talked the vendor into painting it Rosso Corsa as part of the deal. Not a bad deal at 750 including the re-paint eh?! Ah..... those were the days. :)

Robin.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: stanley sweet on 07 February, 2014, 02:25:08 PM
It was interesting on the Fulvia Knights Rally last year that the Dutch and Belgians went for subdued blues and greys. To the point where Rosso Corsa brought the reaction "Ah, the English colour!".


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: chugga boom on 07 February, 2014, 06:49:12 PM
If I had a bare shell Fulvia I think that is one of my favourite combinations - the dark red with the Torino stripes and blue and yellow HF stickers. It's kind of subdued but a bit menacing at the same time. That's if I wanted to have some Lancia connection. If not, I reckon Aston Zagato metallic racing green would be very tempting. When mine was painted several years ago I went with the colour it already was, Rosso Corsa, as it wasn't a full spray and I didn't want to open the bonnet and see a different coloured engine bay. I must admit it must be hard to have a bare shell and thousands of beautiful colours to choose from. The great thing about Fulvias is that you can paint them grey, blue etc and they look elegant and you can drive them wearing a suit and tie, or you can go for reds, oranges etc and they look like rally cars. You'll have to decide what look you want and that will narrow it down to just a few thousand!. I would think Ferrari Giallo Fly yellow might look pretty good especially if you are having it bumperless etc.
I want the maroon in the last photo really , saw a 1.2or 1.3 HF in Turin in this colour, pretty sure it was a Dutch car and just fell in love with it, looked absolutely stunning, its not as brown as rosso York so if anyone can help with the colour name or paint code I'd be very grateful  :)


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: stanley sweet on 07 February, 2014, 07:06:46 PM
That would be a great choice I think. Sometimes I wonder if I shouldn't have gone with it and lived with a Rosso Corsa engine bay! Although I did discover when I was scraping old sound deadener off the rear floor that the original colour was a light metallic blue. I wouldn't think it will be difficult to find that code with the knowledge on this site - it seems to be the standard 1.3HF dark red I've seen on others, more often than not with the stripes. Not sure if it might be listed somewhere like Huib's Viva Lancia site? Good luck.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: vigzag on 23 February, 2014, 02:20:27 PM
A couple more colour charts for HFs attached from 1970 and 1971.

The dark red used on some Flavia and Fulvia cars was Arcoveggio although only seems to appear on a Flavia Zagato colour chart from 1964 or thereabouts so may not have been a production colour for very long. Picture of Flavia Sport prototipo in what is believed to be Arcoveggio attached for info.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: stanley sweet on 25 February, 2014, 12:05:51 PM
I want that car. That's all I have to say.


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: vigzag on 25 February, 2014, 01:17:57 PM
I want that car. That's all I have to say.

You could have bought it in 2012 for the bargain price of EUR 190,000....................................


Title: Re: 1600 hf colours
Post by: DavidLaver on 25 February, 2014, 01:55:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8l8ThX2UkM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_1qlfwkt1g

Low geared, unrefined, terrible ground clearance, flat unsupportive seats - what's more the rear windows are nothing like weird enough.

I'm looking forward to seeing the ex-Mark Hoble racing car (before him Richard Thorne's rally car) out to play again after its time with Omicron.

David