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Title: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: Parisien on 25 November, 2012, 11:46:55 AM
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/397946649.htm?ca=18_s

Plus check out whats either side of said Appia


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Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: fay66 on 26 November, 2012, 12:59:36 AM
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/397946649.htm?ca=18_s

Plus check out whats either side of said Appia


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Pardon Frank, I can't see anything either side of the Appia!
The Flaminia has a Flavia Zagato on it's right, and what appears to be a Fulvia Coupe? on it's left, but I'm probably wrong as I don't recognise the cutouts for the lights.

Brian
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Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: Parisien on 26 November, 2012, 09:22:14 AM
So again...the seller doesn't know what hes selling??!!


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PS Neither did I then....but at least I have an excuse.......;)....well used to anyways!


Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: fay66 on 26 November, 2012, 09:41:32 AM
So again...the seller doesn't know what hes selling??!!
;)
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PS Neither did I then....but at least I have an excuse.......;)....well used to anyways!

Apologies Frank, on reflection the front view in the centre  looks like a Pinin Farina or a Viotti Appia Coupe, although from what you can see of the back window aperture it's not the same, but it's certainly not the same car as the rear view of the convertible he's advertising.
I just blew the picture up and the board with pictures on the left seems to be the Flavia Zagato in happier days.
Where are our Appia experts!

Brian
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Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: Parisien on 26 November, 2012, 09:50:20 AM
Not at all Brian..there were so many variants.....it will take me til the mid-2050s to get my head around them!

Yeah...Appia guys...come on step up to the plate....:)


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Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: Sebastien on 26 November, 2012, 10:09:45 AM
Not an Appia guy!

However to me (stepping up to the plate....):

The car is an Appia Vignale, pictured from the front with hardtop, from the back without!

Left is a Flavia Zagato, right a Panhard CT24

For more infos on the different Appia variants, see:
http://ritzsite.nl/Lancia/09_LanciaCC.htm
and of course:
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_Appia_derivate_e_speciali

And if you weant to learn more about the Panhard CT24, with its 850cc flat twin engine, with 50 hp:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panhard_24



Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: Parisien on 26 November, 2012, 10:44:42 AM
Cheers for that Sebastien.....must go through that site.

I shall pass on the Panhard site though.

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Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: Parisien on 26 November, 2012, 10:46:19 AM
Actually, there had been one up 2 months ago in France......for 5000 euros, this one looks a much better option.


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Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: appiaman on 27 November, 2012, 10:06:38 PM
Guys it a late Appia convertible for sale with a very nice hardtop but in need of a lot of work and money.
Mine had the same hard top.
The guy has a flavia zagato on the right in pieces by the looks .
To be frank cheap price for parts as its got a 8 port zagato engine in but to restore this 20000 won't touch the sides  Chris longs sold for less than 16000 restored


Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: simonandjuliet on 27 November, 2012, 10:21:10 PM
Anorak's corner .....

What are the "give-aways" for it being an 8 port head ? Please share with the uninitiated, but interested !


Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: appiaman on 30 November, 2012, 10:37:01 PM
Hi
One is the carburettor , but I have seen done other pics from another source .
I love my appias I think they are far nicer than Aurelia but they don't have any value I am busy repainting my series 3 just the paint and time doing a rust free car I have owned 20 years seems to add up in material cost to over 3000 . I think a lot of peple think they buy a bargain by buying a project that's is the  biggest mistake  I have done 3 cars now in the last year partly fun partly investment. You will not restore a car for under 30000 wether  it's a Appia or a fulvia or a Aurelia or any car as that is the going rate buying a car for a bargain is a restored car  as its a fix price.


Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: Parisien on 01 December, 2012, 09:29:13 AM
I suppose it depends how much work or how skilled you are in some areas.

I have no doubt profit is there when done on a commercial basis, but for me, its the whole being involved, seeing something ready for the scrapheap being made roadworthy again, especially in this throwaway world..............


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Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: ben on 01 December, 2012, 12:27:49 PM
Restoring Appias is an absolute gold-mine compared to Y10's.

I have just spent about 3 weeks repairing the back end cills etc of my Selectronic  and struggled to get 500 for it with a full MOT and very low mileage to boot.
It will of course out-perform an Appia any day and in considerably more comfort! The GTI will probably out perform an Aurelia! Funny old world isn't it.


Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: Parisien on 01 December, 2012, 02:59:25 PM
....small point Ben.....no one will even remember that Lancia/FIAT et al cobbled together the Y10 in 50 years time....whilst the Aurelia will still have pride of place in the all times great hall of fame....:)


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Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: appiaman on 01 December, 2012, 06:26:07 PM
Totally agree mr Parisian but yes I think we all have that inkline to rescue cars but  we all do it for the love there is a very few that makes money out of it.
The only cars I ever made a small amount of money on we're the ones I washed and polished and sold on the rest always made either a loss or just recovered its money .


Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: ben on 03 December, 2012, 12:10:17 PM
Hi P
      I remember when the chaps in the VSCC used to say things like that about SS Jaguars. And Austin 7's are now revered beyond all logic.

      It may be that in 50 years time people will not credit how hedonostic we were in our big thirsty Grand Tourers!

      The term "cobbled together" to me is much more appropriate to the construction methods used on the body of the B20 than to the production of 1.7 million Y10's.

      Incidentally, to rub salt into the wound, there was apparently a Y10 special edition called an Appia.

                   I shall put my wooden spoon away now!!


Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: Parisien on 03 December, 2012, 02:15:01 PM
Ben....don't put the wooden spoon away quite yet........;)

So are you equating style, originality and general fabulousness of the B20 with the Y10.08978??!! The B20s were hand made......untouched by cold robotic "hands".....just by the utter brilliance of the Lancia panel men.

Thats the thing....no logic was applied to the Y10...just fill that market segment and have done.

Nothing hedonistic about a big engine.................:)

My wounds are all intact....rub away....:)


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PS Ben..this is not me arguing....just stating simple facts.....;).....:)



Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: DavidLaver on 03 December, 2012, 07:43:25 PM
"I love my appias I think they are far nicer than Aurelia".

Some I know for myself, some I can guess, some I've heard but I'd love to hear more...from anyone...

David


Title: Re: LANCIA APPIA cabriolet de 1960 restaurer
Post by: Parisien on 03 December, 2012, 09:29:42 PM
"I love my appias I think they are far nicer than Aurelia".

Some I know for myself, some I can guess, some I've heard but I'd love to hear more...from anyone...

David

David is this a quote from Sigmund Freud or some such....;)

Fine little brother of the big brother....:)



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