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Model Technical and Interest => Aprilia, Ardennes and Ardea => Topic started by: BlueSky on 30 May, 2012, 03:30:33 AM



Title: Window rubber rollers
Post by: BlueSky on 30 May, 2012, 03:30:33 AM
Does anyone have a clever solution to replace the rubber rollers that guide the window glass up through the doors?

All on my car are either seized with flats worn on them, perished or missing altogether. The outside bracket is welded to the door while the inside one, which is spring loaded to run on the glass, is riveted.

Iím sure Chugga, or someone, must have come up against this problem in the past!  See pics for details of what I'm talking about.
Noel


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: St Volumex on 30 May, 2012, 06:42:51 AM
I will start making nitrile rubber products in the near future, so unless there is something readily available I may be interested in making these as a RetroPart project.

Regards,


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: BlueSky on 30 May, 2012, 06:48:47 AM
It's not the rubber part that's the problem, it's how to get the pin out to fit the new rubber on. Most have seized and rusted in and can't be reached down inside the door.
Noel


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: davidwheeler on 30 May, 2012, 08:24:46 AM
Well, well, never seen one of those before.   Mine is a first series.  I have just checked my spare second series door and the roller is present (and seized).  Was this a second series refinement?  It does not appear in  first  series Tavole.


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: BlueSky on 30 May, 2012, 09:05:19 AM
My car is an early first series, so I would guess they would all have them. They are shown on TAV 42a of the later 1st series manual, p/nos 38-96049, 38-96050 & Ch35. Sorry, I used the 2nd series drawing as I though it is easier to see how they fit!
I was wondering if they are really needed, would be much easier just to take them off??


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: Scarpia on 31 May, 2012, 07:14:13 AM
glass will probably rattle whilst driving without them?


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: davidwheeler on 01 June, 2012, 08:13:21 AM
Not mine but there must have been a reason for them - maybe for a partly open window?


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: welleyes on 02 June, 2012, 08:33:34 AM
What stops yours rattling? We have had two cracked front windows from people slamming them, and they certainly do rattle. Rollers are present (1937 car) but rubber appears hard and perished. If there is one roller per window, what does the glass bear against on the other side?


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: lancialulu on 02 June, 2012, 08:44:32 AM
What stops yours rattling? We have had two cracked front windows from people slamming them, and they certainly do rattle. Rollers are present (1937 car) but rubber appears hard and perished. If there is one roller per window, what does the glass bear against on the other side?

Sounds like Retropart project!


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: the.cern on 02 June, 2012, 12:48:31 PM
It seems they do have a job to do so if they are missing or causing a problem may I suggest a small block of PTFE as an interim fix while the correct parts are sourced.

It should be easy (relatively) to source and fit.

                                   Andy


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: St Volumex on 03 June, 2012, 03:31:49 AM
My car is an early first series, so I would guess they would all have them. They are shown on TAV 42a of the later 1st series manual, p/nos 38-96049, 38-96050 & Ch35. Sorry, I used the 2nd series drawing as I though it is easier to see how they fit!
I was wondering if they are really needed, would be much easier just to take them off??

I always think in a case like this that if Lancia Engineers saw fit to design them, and Bean Counters okayed the expense to make them, then there are probably good reasons for installing them in the first place.  :)


Title: Re: Window rubber rollers
Post by: davidwheeler on 05 June, 2012, 03:50:58 PM
If your car is 1937 then they were there from the start and I'd better get down to making some sort of substitute!