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Model Technical and Interest => Flaminia => Topic started by: williamcorke on 17 January, 2012, 10:12:29 AM



Title: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: williamcorke on 17 January, 2012, 10:12:29 AM
I wish we could find cars like this in the UK - asking about £3k but sadly it's in Arizona, which could account for the lack of corrosion.  Air-con doesn't look like the one factory fitted unit I've seen and was probably added to the car in the USA.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160718109586+&viewitem=#v4-47 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160718109586+&viewitem=#v4-47)

Someone who's going to do this car justice should buy it, or it might end up like its sister currently being lovingly hacked into a 'custom' (modified body and planned Alfa 'Milano' - 75 to us - drivetrain, V6, transaxle, suspension...)
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/other-italian-cars/186399-lil-flamer-lancia-21.html (http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/other-italian-cars/186399-lil-flamer-lancia-21.html)
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp237/sh0rtlife3/63%20flamer/Picture4154.jpg)

The argument supporting the 'resto-mod' course of action:
1. It's my car, I can do what I want with it.
2. It was so far gone it was this or the scrapper.
Those are the main two pieces of logic, I think.

The shame is that the finished article probably wont, in my view at least, be as interesting or nice a thing as it would have been done to original specification.


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 17 January, 2012, 01:48:08 PM
The Arizona car on ebay is one of only 31 cars produced to American specification, and has the Saxomat automatic transmission. (Similar to that used on the NSU RO80)


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: B20B24 on 17 January, 2012, 02:35:35 PM
Interesting very original project - would look great in one of those two tone Florida colour schemes,  black roof over turquoise body...


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: williamcorke on 17 January, 2012, 04:20:57 PM
Interesting very original project - would look great in one of those two tone Florida colour schemes,  black roof over turquoise body...

Want to go halves on it Clive?


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 17 January, 2012, 04:35:50 PM


Go on............ you know you want to!!!!


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: lancialulu on 17 January, 2012, 05:45:15 PM
It may be 99% rust free but not 99% cowhide rot free...

Tim


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: williamcorke on 17 January, 2012, 07:16:07 PM
Yes, I expect the window/screen rubbers have all been damaged by the sun too.  Still easier to replace than the metalwork though.

Seller can ship car to port at LA for £250.


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: B20B24 on 17 January, 2012, 08:33:28 PM


Want to go halves on it Clive?
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I can tell you're a very dangerous man, William.

Reminds me of a very nice quote somebody told me the other day - "you can never pay too much for an old car, you can only buy it too soon"

Seriously though, I am tempted, I have been having "Florida fantasies" for some while now :)


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: fay66 on 17 January, 2012, 11:21:50 PM
William,
Wish you hadn't posted the link to the custom one, I've just wasted a lot of time reading through the juvenile drivel where they seem to think they will do a better job than Pininfarina and Lancia and how wonderful  she will look by the time they have chopped her about, I know it's their money so they can do what they like, but I'd have been happier to have seen her rot away gracefully than let this lot loose on her.
As a Lancia Berlina fan I could cry. :'(
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: williamcorke on 18 January, 2012, 10:04:06 AM
Or perhaps Sir would prefer an unrusted GT 3C while he's in the US dry states?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120845455146+&viewitem=#v4-42 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120845455146+&viewitem=#v4-42)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JqEnkkNpRJc/TxaY1sXjqZI/AAAAAAAADqM/GMHI9VxzD6U/s500/CA_flam_GT.JPG)


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: B20B24 on 18 January, 2012, 10:40:34 AM
You're absolutely right Sir likes this very much indeed :)

When are we going?


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: the.cern on 18 January, 2012, 07:43:38 PM
May I come too please?

              Andy


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: B20B24 on 18 January, 2012, 07:48:29 PM
I think a group project buying tour is in order :)


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: williamcorke on 18 January, 2012, 10:10:44 PM
We could have one Flavia coupe each, original dust included.


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: GG on 19 January, 2012, 02:08:30 AM
Few things are as maddening as what those fools are doing to that poor berlina.


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: chugga boom on 19 January, 2012, 08:57:25 AM
the same can also be said for my ardea , cant get anymore chopped than that! , however in my opinion the only nice angle of a flaminia berlina is the front which imho they are "buggering up" , havent read the whole thread just read the pictures  ;)  but get the idea of what they are doing, yes sacralige in the restorers eyes but atleast hopefully it will be another on the road thay may draw people to lancia interest?? or if they totally mess it up atleast it'll be a load of usefull spares, sorry to say this and i'm not having a rant but whats the differance between what they are doing and say building a rally replica fulvia or integrale that is only used twice a year for posing?? never really seen the point but alot of club members do it, i'm not attacking in this post and dont wish to offend anyone i'm mearly deffending the "ROD CORNER" of the club ie ME  ;D


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 24 January, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
Max bid was approx £2,400 with reserve not met. Buy it now was approx £2,500.


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: B20B24 on 24 January, 2012, 08:11:17 PM
After you've recovered your breath about the concept of good ol' boys improving on any Italian master coachbuilding design, judging by the Lloyd in "The Shop" this poor Flaminia may turn out to be a surprisingly good creation. I think the Lloyd looks pretty cool...

Whatever, it's a compelling read!


Title: Re: "99% rust free" Flam Berlina
Post by: williamcorke on 28 January, 2012, 01:32:31 PM
It's back!  Buy-it-now reduced to £2,200.

Lucky it's in Arizona. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160724212394+&viewitem=#ht_500wt_1182 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160724212394+&viewitem=#ht_500wt_1182)