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Buy, Sell and Search => Spares required => Topic started by: libbyvic on 14 July, 2011, 05:53:28 PM



Title: Fulvia subframe
Post by: libbyvic on 14 July, 2011, 05:53:28 PM
Has anyone a Fulvia subframe in excellent condition for sale?

Michael


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: Richard Fridd on 14 July, 2011, 06:12:33 PM
thats spooky Michael, i have had a very nice one with the original white painted numbers for sale for 6 months and its just been bought and taken away in the last hour or so.if i find another i will make contact.is yours seriously beyond repair?best regards richard


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: libbyvic on 14 July, 2011, 07:38:01 PM
Very odd! Hope that you can rustle up another one. The 1600 is a bit crunchy and by the time the garage take it off and patch it up, I would rather a fresh one fitted if going all the bother.

Cheers,

Michael


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: peterbaker on 14 July, 2011, 09:51:27 PM
It always surprised me that nobody has produced a replacement subframe.


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: phil-m on 15 July, 2011, 08:12:00 AM
If a replacement one where available, how much interest would there be?


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: peterbaker on 15 July, 2011, 08:19:49 AM
I think, a heck of a lot.


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: chrislg on 15 July, 2011, 08:56:37 AM
I seem to remember many years ago a company called Scorpion did a prototype subframe for production – but the costs pushed the selling price well into 4 figures (and that was over 10 years ago!), so what would the cost would be now?

When Scorpion sold up, I think Omicron bought and reengineered the tooling to produce the rear out-riggers (and other parts?) which are usually the parts of the subframe that need replacing. They also have a jig which they use when replacing these and making other repairs to make sure the repaired subframe is correct and fits. They can also supply the parts if you want to DIY repair. I have no idea what a refurbished subframe from Omicron costs, but I guess less than reproducing a new one.

Chris


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: HF_Dave on 15 July, 2011, 05:07:39 PM
I have one here in Ireland, it's rusty but not chrunchy Just covered in brown rusty flakes,one uf the outriggers ehere the rubber sits in is a bit weak around the rim. Salt was never used in Ireland for the roads until this year so Irish cars never rusted the same as British cars. Thanks David.


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: HF_Dave on 15 July, 2011, 05:12:36 PM
On another note, the subframe I used in the restoration of my Fulvia I had sand blasted and powder coated, there was a bit of welding at the top of the outriggers where it was a bit weak, I think this is because the water gets trapped here between the rubber and the body and causes rust. Thanks David


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: libbyvic on 15 July, 2011, 07:00:40 PM
Thanks all. One leg is detached and assume the other would not take much to do the same! They legs are available from Omicron though at £180 for the two....plus the dreaded VAT. I wonder if an order was placed for say 20 subframes complete, what the cost would be. Maybe around £200 complete?

I am waiting for a price back from my panel man who is making the rest of the lower body panels and decide from there.

M


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: ncundy on 16 July, 2011, 07:51:19 AM
There's one for sale here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LANCIA-Fulvia-SUBFRAME-/130547129683?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e65371d53#ht_1295wt_1139

although there is a catch :D

I think the idea of getting some made up is good, but I would be surprised if it would be possible to get the price below £1000 even with qtys of 20+. Some of the pieces are pressings, so press tools would be required, getting them rust treated and properly painted (powder coated or stove enamelled) would cost at least £200 on its own. Say 20 hrs labour to put one together @£30/hr would be another £600 + materials and a bit of profit.

Unfortunately I think the most cost effective route is the one you are going down.


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 16 July, 2011, 01:40:44 PM
The one currently on eBay (above) looks a bargain to me, especially being galvanised. I can't understand why he is throwing in the rest of the Sport bodyshell though? It surely wouldn't take long to take off the subframe?


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: LanciAlan on 18 July, 2011, 03:56:21 PM
There's one for sale here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LANCIA-Fulvia-SUBFRAME-/130547129683?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e65371d53#ht_1295wt_1139 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LANCIA-Fulvia-SUBFRAME-/130547129683?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e65371d53#ht_1295wt_1139)

The one currently on eBay (above) looks a bargain to me, especially being galvanised. I can't understand why he is throwing in the rest of the Sport bodyshell though? It surely wouldn't take long to take off the subframe?

I spoke to the seller of the eBay galvanised subframe today. He says the car going with it (and as pictured) is not in fact a Sport but rather a 1974 S3 1300 LHD Coupe with the front cut off and wearing a cape that makes it look like a Sport. Bootlid missing. Lights, glass and brown fabric interior are present. He included Zagato in the title not as a description but rather because the subframe will fit one. I imagine the said subframe is now fitted to this shell using only 4 of the 6 mounting points.


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: HF_Dave on 18 July, 2011, 10:22:53 PM
I think i have already spent around €500.00 on the restoration of my subframe.  It is galvanised and you get a free parts car with a low milage engine , Not a bad deal, the cost of restoring an engine £1,000.00 . Thanks David. ;D


Title: Re: Fulvia subframe
Post by: libbyvic on 19 July, 2011, 07:11:09 PM
My wife would really do me in if another car arrived at the house, even if it came free. She would not believe me anyway!

M