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Buy, Sell and Search => Spares required => Topic started by: Nick Gramaglia on 18 June, 2011, 09:52:07 AM



Title: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Nick Gramaglia on 18 June, 2011, 09:52:07 AM
Hi

Has anyone got a spare series one Fulvia front leaf spring they would like to sell.

Thanks
Nick


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Richard Fridd on 18 June, 2011, 04:55:04 PM
i have a spare largest and spare shortest leaf of unknown origin if you need them to make up a complete spring.if i find the others i will let you know!best regards richard


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: phil-m on 15 July, 2011, 08:20:51 AM
Hi Nick,

 If you are still looking, I have a spare complete spring.


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Nick Gramaglia on 15 July, 2011, 07:19:50 PM
Thanks for the reply Phil

I was after a series one spring to lower the front of my HF but have now had the original spring de- cambered 2" 

Cheers
Nick


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: bruciebonuz on 16 July, 2011, 07:24:05 AM
Hi Nick,

Post up that photo Alan sent of the side profile of your HF - stance looks great, bit like my racing HF was - really planted.

Cheers

Jonathan


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Nick Gramaglia on 16 July, 2011, 03:34:39 PM
Thanks Jonathan

I tried to post  before and after photos but my attachments are too big.

Nick


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: bruciebonuz on 16 July, 2011, 04:28:56 PM
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 my attachments are too big.

Nick
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Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Neil on 17 July, 2011, 03:52:47 PM
Nick, the spring looks good - a good ride height.


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: lancialulu on 17 July, 2011, 05:36:11 PM
Where's the photo?

Tim


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Neil on 17 July, 2011, 08:31:04 PM
Tim, no photos yet, saw it in the flesh today at Clandon Park, hopefully Nick can post before and after photos soon.


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Nick Gramaglia on 17 July, 2011, 09:55:47 PM
Cheers Neil,

Really pleased with the result the back sits just slightly higher, but low.

I have re sized the pics Tim so they should be on here now.


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: lancialulu on 18 July, 2011, 06:07:53 AM
Excellent.

Tim


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: HF_Dave on 18 July, 2011, 10:36:54 PM
Looks great ! what size tyres have you got on the Fulvia ?  :) Thanks, david.


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Nick Gramaglia on 19 July, 2011, 04:51:56 PM
Hi David

They are 185 x 60x 14


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Richard Fridd on 19 July, 2011, 06:09:28 PM
hi Nick,looks good! was the spring removal+ subsequent refitting straight forward [or otherwise] as discussed at Brands?glad it turned out well!best regards richard


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Nick Gramaglia on 19 July, 2011, 08:30:00 PM
Hi Richard
It was pretty straight forward, but will be a lot easier if I have to do it again as I ended up doing some things twice (adjusting the length of studding used to compress the spring etc) and the first time I released the tension of the spring it locked on the upper swinging arm so I had to compress it again and remove the arm un compress the spring again.
 


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: fay66 on 19 July, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
Hi Richard
It was pretty straight forward, but will be a lot easier if I have to do it again as I ended up doing some things twice (adjusting the length of studding used to compress the spring etc) and the first time I released the tension of the spring it locked on the upper swinging arm so I had to compress it again and remove the arm un compress the spring again.
 

Nick,
Any photos of the special tool/tools you used and a description of the job please?


Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Richard Fridd on 20 July, 2011, 06:08:29 AM
hi Nick,the pic shows a subframe and associated components not attached to a car.i assume spring work was easier like this.was it much trickier on the actual car?how many suspension parts did you have to remove to get the spring into complete repose.i too have done the job described but not with the car assembled.i am pleased you achieved your desired front rideheight at the first fitting with no need to repeat the exercise!best regards richard


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Nick Gramaglia on 20 July, 2011, 08:08:17 PM
Hi Brian and Richard
As regards to special tools I used 10mm studding and unistrut to compress the spring, the main difference of having the subframe removed is replacing the 8 bolts below the coil which would be a lot easier. 
1. Take the battery out - remove the bonnet
2. Remove the complete coil and support
3. Remove the 8 bolts and u shape metal that clamp the spring in the middle (below the coil)
4. Jack up the car
5. Remove both wheels and one shock absorber (to make room for the clamp)
6. Compress the spring with unistrut / studding clamp
7. When the pressure is off remove the silent block
8. Take off the top swinging arm (you might need to remove the horn as the long bolt clashes with it)
9. Slowly lower the clamp and spring
10. Remove the silent block from the other side
11. Draw out the spring
12. To replace it is the reverse, but is a bit fiddly fitting the centre bracket and 8 bolts


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: fay66 on 21 July, 2011, 12:47:03 AM
Nick,
Many thanks.

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: roddy on 22 July, 2011, 07:11:24 PM
Nick

That's an interesting bracing piece across the inner wing seam, just above the brake pipe couplings.

Has anyone else had this done on their Fulvia, in addition to welding up the seam (which loves to split apart, especially on 1600 cars) ?

Regards - Roddy


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Nick Gramaglia on 22 July, 2011, 08:55:23 PM
Hi Roddy
The car was race prepped and ran in the HSCC for a couple of years so it was probably done then, I have another car with some really substantial bracing that I believe was fitted by Evolution Engineering.


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: HF_Dave on 22 July, 2011, 11:18:22 PM
I have the same size tyre on my Fulvia but it sits very high. It's a series 2 1.3 , would I get the same result if I changed the spring on the 1.3 ? I have a series 1 spring in my parts collection  Thanks David. :)


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: fay66 on 22 July, 2011, 11:58:06 PM
Hi Roddy
The car was race prepped and ran in the HSCC for a couple of years so it was probably done then, I have another car with some really substantial bracing that I believe was fitted by Evolution Engineering.

Crikey,
Looks like someone let Chugga loose on it ;D

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: LanciAlan on 23 July, 2011, 07:13:57 AM
Hi Brian and Richard
As regards to special tools I used 10mm studding and unistrut to compress the spring, the main difference of having the subframe removed is replacing the 8 bolts below the coil which would be a lot easier.  
1. Take the battery out - remove the bonnet
2. Remove the complete coil and support
3. Remove the 8 bolts and u shape metal that clamp the spring in the middle (below the coil)
4. Jack up the car
5. Remove both wheels and one shock absorber (to make room for the clamp)
6. Compress the spring with unistrut / studding clamp
7. When the pressure is off remove the silent block
8. Take off the top swinging arm (you might need to remove the horn as the long bolt clashes with it)
9. Slowly lower the clamp and spring
10. Remove the silent block from the other side
11. Draw out the spring
12. To replace it is the reverse, but is a bit fiddly fitting the centre bracket and 8 bolts

Nice description - I admire your economy of words. You could even have done it in 10! I know this is the approved method but did centering (?) the spring present any issues as you re-fit it in a slightly asymetrical position and re-tension it from only one side before finally fixing at the centre bracket?

And whats the formula for lowering the rear - remove a leaf? I read this in the Zagato Competizione book.


Title: Re: Fulvia Leaf Spring
Post by: Nick Gramaglia on 23 July, 2011, 02:26:49 PM
Thanks Alan
Like to be brief and to the point, and yes it was a real pain re fitting the spring (in a slightly asymetrical position and re-tension etc) I just kept easing it towards the locating hole with blocks of wood and big screwdriver until it finally clipped in the locating hole.

As for the rear springs I bought some that have been re-cambered.

And now for my next post, how to re build a 1600 HF engine in ten steps.