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Title: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 27 November, 2009, 11:02:37 AM
just to keep those interested updated, hopefully the pickup is being collected the 9th of december and making its journey back to britain, so i should be collecting in time for christmass  :)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: DavidLaver on 27 November, 2009, 06:18:53 PM

...then a rush job to get the Flamina mechanicals into it and Santa Pod for April 1st...?


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: fay66 on 27 November, 2009, 06:37:09 PM

...then a rush job to get the Flamina mechanicals into it and Santa Pod for April 1st...?

2+2 might make 5 in this instance ::)

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 27 November, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
interesting prospect but barking up the wrong tree  ;D all will be revieled in time  ;)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 09 December, 2009, 01:27:46 PM
another update, alan wesson and will how are sitting outside city auto's turin at the moment waiting for them to finish their lunch, alan offered to collect it for me as he happened to be in turin with his trailer anyway RESULT!!!, none of us have got a clue at the moment what i've bought, as soon as i get some photo's i will post them


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 12 December, 2009, 09:56:01 AM
i've spoken to alan via txt message, he's got it and on route home with it, it should be back in the uk monday, he tells me its in a hell of a state with most of 1 of the front wings and A post missing!!! this is from an accident that was never repaired and left to rot, he said its a BIG BIG restoration only for the brave so sounds a promising challange  ;D if i'm honest straight forward resto's bore me so i look forward to the challange, my aim is to collect either next sat/sun, i've had a qoute to sand blast the whole thing approx 300 which i felt was a bargain so this will be my 1st step with it so i can see whats actually left of it,i've also bought an s2 appia as a doner car for all the parts i need as the pickup is a bare shell with three and a half wings and spare wheel compartment lid, apparently the s2 is "in a hell of a state" also so is ideal to donate all its parts (i'd never scrap a good 1!!) hopefully collecting the s2 tomorrow but wont know until this evening, this meens another "EPIC ADVENTURE OF CHUGGA AND WARBY" so pictures will follow as soon as i have some.....................we promise to AMUSE  ;)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: Warby on 19 December, 2009, 03:59:03 AM
myself and chugga have gone high tech and this is a live update of our journey to ppppppppppppick up a pickup. its rather chilly its minus3 and we are making good progress only 245 to go.


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: Warby on 19 December, 2009, 05:26:32 AM
162 miles to go just been out to de ice window now at services going to lighten the load!


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: Warby on 19 December, 2009, 08:08:31 AM
after stoping at nearly every services down the m5 for various reasons like spare wheel on trailor working its way loose and to de ice and clean the windscreen as the screen jets are froze we are now approaching the wooky hole.


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: sparehead3 on 19 December, 2009, 09:49:59 AM
watch out for the witch ....


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: Neil on 19 December, 2009, 10:51:07 AM
I saw a picture of your next project at the Surrey meeting on Thursday evening on Will's phone whilst a blizzard raged outside, looks like you will be busy!  But not a problem for you of course, I look forward to seeing how you get on with this enterprise.   ;D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: DavidLaver on 19 December, 2009, 11:07:22 AM
 
I was at Exeter for four years so familiar - and very lovely - territory.  The weather here is perfect for raiders.  Keep taking photos!!

David


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: rogerelias on 19 December, 2009, 11:47:10 AM
At work bored and its howlin with snow , taking the FWD ranger home for some fun ;D ;D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: fensaddler on 19 December, 2009, 12:47:28 PM
No snow here.  What's it like down in Wiltshire chaps?  Be following you down that way in a few hours....


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: sparehead3 on 19 December, 2009, 02:00:56 PM
No snow here ... but heading up to Andy's may be different as it's higher up than me. Look forward to seeing you later.


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: Richard Fridd on 19 December, 2009, 02:06:35 PM
snowed in here[maidstone]i had to abandon van and walk home yesterday


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: DavidLaver on 19 December, 2009, 09:07:35 PM

We also need to know what the tunes are - CDs, IPOD, wireless?   For me its Absolute Radio, and DAB is the best thing since the heated rear window.

...and of course what's SO good about the heated rear window is that it keeps the hands warm when pushing...

David


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 20 December, 2009, 07:41:02 PM
as promised some photo's  ;D if you want too see the story of collection see the other thread in this topic area   


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 20 December, 2009, 07:43:28 PM
a few more


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 20 December, 2009, 07:46:50 PM
more


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 20 December, 2009, 07:49:32 PM
more


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 20 December, 2009, 08:19:09 PM
the keen eyed person will notice between this thread and the collection journey topic will notice my trailer suddenly changed, this was because we couldn't get it off alans trailer !!!! so i pinched his trailer and he's got mine at the moment  ::) luckily the truck just went under my ramp on the trailer, we lowered the ramp down an used a couple of straps to suspend it, lifted the ramp up and drove the trailer out!! , then lowered the ramp down so that the pickup is now on a trolley, word of encouragement from don cross and my dad, they both said its not as bad as they expected, i admit it is bad but the bulkheads and chassis legs are really good, floors and sills etc are easy to repair so i'm not worried  ;D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: fay66 on 21 December, 2009, 01:31:39 AM
the keen eyed person will notice between this thread and the collection journey topic will notice my trailer suddenly changed, this was because we couldn't get it off alans trailer !!!! so i pinched his trailer and he's got mine at the moment  ::) luckily the truck just went under my ramp on the trailer, we lowered the ramp down an used a couple of straps to suspend it, lifted the ramp up and drove the trailer out!! , then lowered the ramp down so that the pickup is now on a trolley, word of encouragement from don cross and my dad, they both said its not as bad as they expected, i admit it is bad but the bulkheads and chassis legs are really good, floors and sills etc are easy to repair so i'm not worried  ;D

Words ( Nearly) Fail Me.The Glass is Half Full, Right :o


Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 21 December, 2009, 06:12:40 PM
OMG!!!!!!   Will it be ready for the AGM............................................................2020?


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 21 December, 2009, 10:33:19 PM
 :D i'm glad your both impressed, i've actually started on it today !! removed the front wings and started to remove the rears, i've tried an s3 door in place and it fits almost perfectly which is a huge bonus, as the rear ends of both front wings have been butchered by a crazed man with a chisel they can be "possibly" modified to suite the s3 doors, the scrap s3 has door pillars so alls looking good, next job is to make a jig to pick up on the suspension mounts so that the body doesn't twist when welding and shot blasting, will keep you all posted   ;D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: DavidLaver on 22 December, 2009, 02:17:13 PM

You can tell people that the camioncinos were made after the change over to SIIIs with an SI type front end but once the door pressings were used up they grafted in SIII doors and naturally enough SIII door pillars and frames.   I also "expect" that the reason the restoration of you particular example stalled was that the previous so-called expert failed to realise this and instead spent fruitless hours trying to "adjust" the car to SI doors.  Good job you stepped in.  I expect the previous so-called expert didn't realise that yours was one of the very rare ones fitted with the Aprilia engine and box...  In that spec they ALWAYS had green carpets.

David


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 22 December, 2009, 02:36:20 PM
isn't it funny that it all started from this photo, which i'm pretty sure was just a joke .........so in future DONT TELL ME  :D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 22 December, 2009, 02:37:17 PM
looks worse in my photo's dont you think lol


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: ncundy on 22 December, 2009, 02:52:02 PM
Absolutely David; refreshing to see that someone takes the history seriously. A piece of additional information, the first 500 had Variente 1016 engines and plexiglass windows, having been homologated for the 1957 Naples - Turin - Naples "Corsa dei compensatori di rotella" memorably won by Giacomo Parri /Matteo Philip.


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 22 December, 2009, 03:21:15 PM
do you think i could get away with saying it belonged to mussolini ??? my dads and doug crowthers asturas seem to be the only ones NOT owned by him ,  ::) it was actually builkt in 1934 as a prototype for mussolini's shopping trips, kept in hiding till after the war the developed by lancia as a good idea, but this is the genuine vehicle lol  ;D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 27 December, 2009, 06:12:30 PM
work has comenced, we removed the front wings and started removing the rear decking/planks, however we have potentially made a dickie seat  :D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: fay66 on 27 December, 2009, 09:40:22 PM
work has comenced, we removed the front wings and started removing the rear decking/planks, however we have potentially made a dickie seat  :D

Your young man is certainly getting some in ;D experience that is, not many places he'd get the sort of training or the opportunity you're giving him, perfect grounding for a job in Classic restorations ;)

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 06 January, 2010, 09:50:33 PM
video links to the pickup being collected from turin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI_hRNezKtA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWijkGPELuE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJhnq-QD3b8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E54B9uMqago

hope these work  ???


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: sparehead3 on 06 January, 2010, 10:07:09 PM
They're coming up private ....


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: fay66 on 06 January, 2010, 11:24:43 PM
Ditto won't let me look without signing in? :(

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 06 January, 2010, 11:36:02 PM
if you set up a google account ie you tube account and it should let you straight in,  ??? i didnt have one until tonight , took me 10 mins to do and its free  ;D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: fay66 on 07 January, 2010, 01:50:50 AM
Never had to sign in before from a link, I've just gone straight in ???

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: j886atv on 08 January, 2010, 07:50:12 PM
if you set up a google account ie you tube account and it should let you straight in,  ??? i didnt have one until tonight , took me 10 mins to do and its free  ;D

Nope - I've already got a youtube account - and it still shows as private :(


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 08 January, 2010, 08:59:57 PM
BIZZARE!!! if anyone can help i'll happilly send them the video's if they can post them onto a you tube link that everyone can see, i dont know how to do it, any offers??


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: sparehead3 on 08 January, 2010, 10:28:29 PM
I've got an account and it doesn't work for me ... still says private. Lee Proudfoot might know ?


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 17 January, 2010, 07:12:13 PM
whilst i was making a boot floor extension for the ardea, ( see ardea thread ) http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1509.210

warby and owen set to stripping the shell ready for shot blasting, i also want whats left of the rear deck removed so that inside all the chassis legs can be blasted too,


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 17 January, 2010, 07:14:29 PM
the pile of stuff on the floor is the appia's floor!!!


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 17 January, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
last 2 photo's were part of warby'new game (where's warby see link)

http://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2627.msg18874#new


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: fay66 on 17 January, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
Got to hand it too you Chugga, who else would tackle a lost cause as bad as this ;D


Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 17 January, 2010, 10:01:57 PM
brian simple question simple answer ............my dad !! ::) think thats possibly why i make these mad decisions  ;D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: Sliding Pillar on 24 January, 2010, 06:22:55 PM
There are two Appia commercials entered for the Sliding Pillar Rally, so if you want to see what the finished thing should look like you know where to be!!


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 26 March, 2010, 04:54:52 PM
thought i'd get this project underway, i bought a pair of alloy front wings from the appia consortium a few months ago, will how had them made but never used them, they are the wrong shape for the pickup as the wings are very different to a standard s1/2 car however they will make a damn good start to replacement wings and far easier than starting from scratch, i've dropped them off with bill lewis who is hoping to have them ready for a 1st fitting in a month or so   ;D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 16 May, 2010, 03:59:08 PM
a little more progress, since dropping the wings off with bill he made up aflared arch and fitted it to the alloy wings, i collected them and tried to fit them, what a disaster!!!, what he'd done was 100% correct however the wings where completely the wrong shape and size to fit. the distance between the top and bottom of the wing was over an inch too short and wher the wing meets the grill area was over an inch ot too, so back to the drawring board and start again as there is just too much wrong with the shape of the alloy wings to sort easily and as bill said it would be easier for him to start affresh  :-\ , anyway a week later i got a call to pick up 1 of the steel wings that he'd repaired to try, now look back at the previous photo's 1st and look at the state of the o/s wing and see the job he's done on it !! absolutly AMAZING  :o , fits well and the door fits to it correctly etc


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: DavidLaver on 16 May, 2010, 06:20:44 PM

Looking great.

...and the alloy ones will go on your NEXT project eh?

David


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 16 May, 2010, 06:39:23 PM
alloy wings will be left in the shed incase i ever need to use them, its honestly more work to make them fit though than repair the old ones  :-\


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: fay66 on 17 May, 2010, 01:35:15 AM
Great Job James,
Although I note you are currently set up for the Fred Flintstone method of propulsion ;D

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 17 May, 2010, 07:40:16 AM
ha ha , its not the best is it  ;D however its amazing how much better it looks with a "whole wing" and a door fitted , its going to be a long project but if i just keep chipping away at it in spare time "between other projects" hopefully it'll get done soon  ;D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: fay66 on 17 May, 2010, 10:46:29 AM
ha ha , its not the best is it  ;D however its amazing how much better it looks with a "whole wing" and a door fitted , its going to be a long project but if i just keep chipping away at it in spare time "between other projects" hopefully it'll get done soon  ;D

 "Chipping away" Very droll!  What's Barney's (Walby's) side like, I trust he's able to assist :D
Wing's looking good.
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: LanciAlan on 19 May, 2010, 10:17:26 AM
Watching with interest - the structural and creative challenges so far seem less than the tailgate, etc. on the other "pickup thing". though the photos of this one are fairly localised - is this thing still called "Alan"?


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: LanciAlan on 19 May, 2010, 10:21:50 AM
OK I just looked back at the Santa delivery pics. Its effing gruesome .... and I wouldn't be surprised if Warby's absence is due to him having fallen into a hole in the "other side" (not shown in the latest pics) never to be seen again


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 19 May, 2010, 03:44:56 PM
yes its still called "alan" in honour of the great finder lol, warby has been on holiday so havent seen much of him the last couple of wks , however..................................................HE'S BACK!!  ;D  servicing his appia this weekend so you never no maybe a little more "where's warby"  ::) pickup is fairly straight forward and the more i look at it the less worried i am, really pleased with the job bill has done on the wings so far, my aim is to just keep accumilating parts and repairing bits as i restore the other projects then hopefully when i get around to doing it everything will be there like a huge airfix kit  :D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 04 October, 2010, 07:18:01 PM
well i've had my 2nd floor built in my unit so i've got space back to put the appia shell back in my own unit!, anyway i've bolted the front wing on and latched the door on for a trial fit, i then rolled the shell over on its side onto its trolly to make a jig to hold it whilst its blasted and welded, work will hopefully commence soon on the jig


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 04 October, 2010, 07:19:08 PM
back in its hole  :D


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: fay66 on 04 October, 2010, 07:57:53 PM
Is that horror or just puzzlement on the young boys face.?

Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: LanciAlan on 04 October, 2010, 09:16:39 PM
Truly shocking.


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: HF_Dave on 04 October, 2010, 09:34:10 PM
Exposing young childern to this, at such a young age :o


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: chugga boom on 04 October, 2010, 10:29:45 PM
Exposing young childern to this, at such a young age :o

my dad did it to me and i turned out normal  :D , alan i'm glad your impressed, and brian...............MOST PEOPLE LOOK AT IT LIKE THAT  :D its had an awefull lot of interest/disbelief/comments (not all good.....well i dont think any were good) however this only makes me more determined, my appia was a similar story, various customers and workers off the ind est saying u'll never do that! its a wreck, 9 months later it rolled out finished, i still see it fairly straight forward especially with my dad around to assist  ;)


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: DavidLaver on 05 October, 2010, 08:40:04 AM

The advantage of this one is you can see what you're dealing with...very much what you see is what you get...not the sort of car to dissappoint as being much worse than expected...

I've every faith!! 

...and am greatly looking forward to seeing it progress...

David


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: LANCIA on 17 January, 2016, 05:53:55 AM
ciao !!!    HAI CONTINUATO IL TUO PROGETTO CAMIONCINO APPIA?..........


Title: Re: appia camioncino
Post by: frankxhv773t on 17 January, 2016, 05:19:49 PM
"my dad did it to me and i turned out normal"

That might be a matter of opinion!

But then your "abnormality" is simply inspiring.