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Model Technical and Interest => Lambda => Topic started by: davidwheeler on 15 May, 2022, 06:19:11 PM



Title: Front suspension
Post by: davidwheeler on 15 May, 2022, 06:19:11 PM
Starting to install the new pillar/stub axle assemblies.  I find I cannot remove the pillar because it fouls the frame.    I am thinking I will have to remove the screwed in sleeve ("guide tube according to parts list").  Thing is, Freyja and I did this in the garage at Sacro Monte and I canot remember how we did it.
The locking ring at the bottom is dam' tight.  I think I may have to use a little heat after I have made a suitable spaniard to fit it. 


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: JohnMillham on 16 May, 2022, 07:11:06 AM
Yes, the sleeve has to be removed first. It will only just come out then! Good luck.


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: davidwheeler on 17 May, 2022, 04:43:50 AM
Thanks, John.  Do they screw in or just slide in like the bottom ones?


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: JohnMillham on 17 May, 2022, 07:21:52 AM
When the ring 101058 is undone, it will slide out.


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: davidwheeler on 17 May, 2022, 04:00:26 PM
101012 upwards or downwards?
I removed the ring 101058, having made a tool and applied a lot of heat and force.   It would have come easier if I had known about the locking pin 10721 hidden at the back which pinged out after a few turns.
I have tried pulling it out using a 5mm spacer and 101014 to pull upon it, thinking it would come once it started to move.  No such luck.  "Slide out" is not in its vocabulary.    It has shifted a couple of mm. but with great difficulty.     Either I have to make a thicker spacer or install 101014 and tap it downwards.   Pulling it up would seem better...
I do not remember such struggles when Freyja and I did it on the other side in Sacro Monte!


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: JohnMillham on 17 May, 2022, 07:07:11 PM
I think it slides up when the bottom ring is undone, but it was a while ago when I had mine apart, so I could be wrong. You might have to tap it a bit to persuade it.


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: davidwheeler on 18 May, 2022, 12:36:49 PM
Finally got it off this morning.  The sleeve was so tight I had to hammer the spanner to try to extract it (using a spacer made from an old ball bearing) so I tapped it down, cleaned it all and then drew it upwards easily.  When I do the other side I will take pictures and post it in the technical thread.


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: davidwheeler on 24 May, 2022, 08:09:39 PM
Fitting new spring thrust bearings and wondering what grease - very thick "axle grease" or moly which is thinner but higher shear.   Any ideas?


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: JohnMillham on 25 May, 2022, 09:50:09 AM
I think they live in oil. Were they not covered in oil when you removed them? If not, I suppose Moly would do the job best.


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: donw on 25 May, 2022, 06:26:58 PM
Looking forward to seeing the"other" side before I start on mine!


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: davidwheeler on 01 June, 2022, 10:45:55 AM
Done.  Full instructions in technical information thread.


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: davidwheeler on 21 June, 2022, 07:05:11 PM
Whilst installing the new pillars I took advantage of the opportunity to determine the true angles (camber and castor) of the pillars themselves with the aid of a right angles bubble level and a spacer.   Not the most successful photographs - I need to make an appointment with Zaphod Beeblebrock's surgeon to have an extra arm fitted.


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: GG on 22 June, 2022, 02:21:06 PM
Marc Bondini, Australian Aurelia guru, found some "angle measuring gizmo" that was about 1 " square and magnetic, and you could just snap it onto the vertical element, and it would tell you its angle.... he got them off Amazon.....


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: davidwheeler on 23 June, 2022, 12:50:45 PM
Cheaper than a third arm, too.


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: williamcorke on 23 June, 2022, 02:20:17 PM
Perhaps something like this?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUTOUTLET-Inclinometer-Protractor-Backlight-Magnetic/dp/B07D8TJF4P/ref=sr_1_18?crid=20GQLZ617521X&keywords=inclination+gauge+magnetic&qid=1655993942&sprefix=inclination+gauge+magnetic%2Caps%2C62&sr=8-18 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUTOUTLET-Inclinometer-Protractor-Backlight-Magnetic/dp/B07D8TJF4P/ref=sr_1_18?crid=20GQLZ617521X&keywords=inclination+gauge+magnetic&qid=1655993942&sprefix=inclination+gauge+magnetic%2Caps%2C62&sr=8-18)


Title: Re: Front suspension
Post by: GG on 23 June, 2022, 03:19:48 PM
that's it!